[Kizzy]

The IRA used coded warnings as an alert to any device, therefore that threat was relatively overt.
Security services already have access to information whenever they deem it necessary as part of RIPA and also the Civil Contingencies Act.
So again why would they have to have the records of everyone when all they have to do is apply for the information, is it because they don't want to apply and would prefer to simply indiscriminately 'snoop'?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/surveill...nter-terrorism

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The IRA used coded warnings as an alert to any device, therefore that threat was relatively overt.
Security services already have access to information whenever they deem it necessary as part of RIPA and also the Civil Contingencies Act.
So again why would they have to have the records of everyone when all they have to do is apply for the information, is it because they don't want to apply and would prefer to simply indiscriminately 'snoop'?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/surveill...nter-terrorism

Again - If the Government WANTED to 'snoop' on any of us then they would not need to secure public approval to do so.

I don't know what - if any - personal information is stored on 'secret Government data bases' but I personally could not give a shet. When it comes to someone knowing which porn site I might be masturbating to, or which TV channel I prefer watching, I will take this anyday over the UK being another Syria or The Lebanon.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Again - If the Government WANTED to 'snoop' on any of us then they would not need to secure public approval to do so.

I don't know what - if any - personal information is stored on 'secret Government data bases' but I personally could not give a shet. When it comes to someone knowing which porn site I might be masturbating to, or which TV channel I prefer watching, I will take this anyday over the UK being another Syria or The Lebanon.

They do that's the entire issue though... we have the right to a private life without state interference, atm they have to apply to snoop should there be a need, why is this not sufficient it's working perfectly well.
We are not Syria because of these rights.
Countries the world over are crying out for democracy and civil rights and all we want to do in the UK is give them away it seems :/