[DemolitionRed]

Yep and at the moment, the UK courts have ruled it legal but are now in a pickle because Amnesty are taking it to the European Court of Human Rights where they will likely rule that the UK's spying programme is in contravention of European law, which would then make it illegal.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yep and at the moment, the UK courts have ruled it legal but are now in a pickle because Amnesty are taking it to the European Court of Human Rights where they will likely rule that the UK's spying programme is in contravention of European law, which would then make it illegal.

Which is why the govt want rid of the human rights laws too, tories bleat about a nanny state... what would they want in all honesty? A jailer state it seems where everyone is confined to a very narrow path with every movement monitored and recorded :/

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Which is why the govt want rid of the human rights laws too, tories bleat about a nanny state... what would they want in all honesty? A jailer state it seems where everyone is confined to a very narrow path with every movement monitored and recorded :/

Oh don't get me started on this one

Cameron is meddling with our common/domestic law by telling Joe public we need more power in deportation rights, to have the authority to deport people to countries where there's a reasonable expectation of the deportee being tortured. What Joe public needs to understand is, even if the Human Rights Act was re-written and re-named and even if we withdrew from the ECHR we still couldn't deport such people because we are still bound by the UN convention and the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture.

The Human Rights Act is for everyone and so when our new bill propose new law which will enable the courts to detain Islamic suspects indefinitely and without trial, it also means it holds the right to detain its citizens indefinitely and without trial too.

The HRA permits the public to make peaceful protests. From what I've managed to gather so far, such assemblies won't be permitted under this new law.

This isn't just about criminals. People really do need to research the implications of what will happen if the British Courts break formal links with the European Court of Human Rights’.

[bots]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh don't get me started on this one

Cameron is meddling with our common/domestic law by telling Joe public we need more power in deportation rights, to have the authority to deport people to countries where there's a reasonable expectation of the deportee being tortured. What Joe public needs to understand is, even if the Human Rights Act was re-written and re-named and even if we withdrew from the ECHR we still couldn't deport such people because we are still bound by the UN convention and the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture.

The Human Rights Act is for everyone and so when our new bill propose new law which will enable the courts to detain Islamic suspects indefinitely and without trial, it also means it holds the right to detain its citizens indefinitely and without trial too.

The HRA permits the public to make peaceful protests. From what I've managed to gather so far, such assemblies won't be permitted under this new law.

This isn't just about criminals, people really do need to research the implications of what will happen if the British Courts break formal links with the European Court of Human Rights’.

and don't get me started either. Tony Blair and the previous labour government meddled plenty with peoples personal freedoms, and wanted to go further than they did too!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and don't get me started either. Tony Blair and the previous labour government meddled plenty with peoples personal freedoms, and wanted to go further than they did too!

Absolutely agree. Traitor Blair did incomprehensible damage whilst he was in power.