[Macie Lightfoot]

okay but it's not like everything Austin does isn't driven by what he thinks the public perception will be lmfao come on

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

okay but it's not like everything Austin does isn't driven by what he thinks the public perception will be lmfao come on

Oh yes because Austin thinks that arguing on a 50 year old woman and arguing on a straight white male privilege Housemate are winning moves, come on.

And why are people using Helen and Jim as the lowest of the low winners when we've had Pete, Anthony, Rachel Rice, Sam Evans, Chloe, Paddy, and Alex Reid?

Oh and if she flooded the studio in her original series as much as she did in UBB then Cryandtelle would've been an horrific winner.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Oh yes because Austin thinks that arguing on a 50 year old woman and arguing on a straight white male privilege Housemate are winning moves, come on.

And why are people using Helen and Jim as the lowest of the low winners when we've had Pete, Anthony, Rachel Rice, Sam Evans, Chloe, Paddy, and Alex Reid?

Oh and if she flooded the studio in her original series as much as she did in UBB then Cryandtelle would've been an horrific winner.

Like I said earlier, Austin's latest actions are really just him panicking because everything that he thought would work is blowing up in his face. He thought he could build James up and ride him to the end, but now it's working out in the exact opposite way.

And because Helen and Jim Davidson are legitimately awful people unlike a lot of the people you mentioned, but I know you're living in a world where Chloe is a nastier person than Farrah so I get why you're confused.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Like I said earlier, Austin's latest actions are really just him panicking because everything that he thought would work is blowing up in his face. He thought he could build James up and ride him to the end, but now it's working out in the exact opposite way.

And because Helen and Jim Davidson are legitimately awful people unlike a lot of the people you mentioned, but I know you're living in a world where Chloe is a nastier person than Farrah so I get why you're confused.

I think that you're confusing me for someone else as I've not said that Chloe was nastier than Farrah, her treatment of Jack was bad but not on Farrah's level.

And likability should always play secondry to entertainment, which the ones that I've listed was not as entertaining, plus they did have unlikable traits themselves, just because they're not as unlikable than two louder people still doesn't mean that you can't be the worst thing of all a nasty bore.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that you're confusing me for someone else as I've not said that Chloe was nastier than Farrah, her treatment of Jack was bad but not on Farrah's level.

And likability should always play secondry to entertainment, which the ones that I've listed was not as entertaining, plus they did have unlikable traits themselves, just because they're not as unlikable than two louder people still doesn't mean that you can't be the worst thing of all a nasty bore.

You listed Chloe and a lot of other questionable choices like Michelle Visage () in a thread literally titled "Has there ever been a nastier HM than Farrah?" so I don't think I have you confused for anyone else.

And again, quality over quantity. Helen and Jim Davidson unfortunately were Big Characters in their respective series, but I didn't find either of them to be all that entertaining. Rachel Rice, Chloe, and Paddy certainly entertained me more than they ever did, and I was very satisfied with each of their wins. It's also worth mentioning that this franchise is kinda in shambles and I think Chloe's win was nice and refreshing, reminding us that it is still possible to be a generally nice person and win BB.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

You listed Chloe and a lot of other questionable choices like Michelle Visage () in a thread literally titled "Has there ever been a nastier HM than Farrah?" so I don't think I have you confused for anyone else.

And again, quality over quantity. Helen and Jim Davidson unfortunately were Big Characters in their respective series, but I didn't find either of them to be all that entertaining. Rachel Rice, Chloe, and Paddy certainly entertained me more than they ever did, and I was very satisfied with each of their wins. It's also worth mentioning that this franchise is kinda in shambles and I think Chloe's win was nice and refreshing, reminding us that it is still possible to be a generally nice person and win BB.

Why can't nice but entertaining people win BB though like Scoop for example?

And I don't remember the Chloe comment but I'll take your word for it that I said it, but I definitely stand by that Michelle having homophobic views herself about how Perez should behave whilst telling everybody else to not be prejudiced in anyway was very annoying not to mention hypocritical, so yes I do think that's nastier than Farrah who at least practiced what she preached, even if it was bile.