[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I don't like the idea of being told 'you're gay because of this' or 'oh that's why you're gay' it's a crock of ****. I'm gay because I'm gay, that's the way is. I can't change that.

Nobody's saying you can change it though. :cons:

You're still assuming this is all to do with influencing a person to make a conscious decision. It isn't.

Do you honestly think you'd be the exact same person you are today if you were brought up by another family? In another culture? Another country? etc etc

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody's saying you can change it though. :cons:

You're still assuming this is all to do with influencing a person to make a conscious decision. It isn't.

Do you honestly think you'd be the exact same person you are today if you were brought up by another family? In another culture? Another country? etc etc

Sexuality is nothing to do with culture, what country you're in or what family you're brought up in. It's unique to a equally unique being.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

Sexuality is nothing to do with culture, what country you're in or what family you're brought up in. It's unique to a equally unique being.

I never said that. I'm suggesting everything about a person is a combination of everything that surrounds a person, who they interact with, the experiences they have, the childhood they had. It all comes together to make a person who they are.

It's not as simple as saying, you have a short temper because your mum does, you're straight because your dad is a religious homophobic etc. Humans are complex with many sides to them, all of which have some root in our experiences and our past.

Hence therapy and counselling helping people get to the root of things about themselves, discover things about themselves by looking back on their lives.

That's why babies are so bloody dull, , they haven't formed anything yet because they're new. As they grow you see their "person" form and change and adapt as they grow up due to a combination of EVERYTHING that makes them who they are.

I meant sexuality is just as much a part of you as everything else that you are, your personality traits and everything. All of which wouldn't be exactly the same if your life to date had been affected by different factors. Is that suggesting you chose to be gay? No. Is it suggesting you chose to be... I don't know... short tempered? Or hate baked beans? Or what sense of humour you have? No it means it's all formed from a bunch of variable factors that are different for everyone.