[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'm not saying "develop gay", I'm talking about sexuality in general.

Babies, as far as I'm aware, don't have sexual urges. It's something that develops later. Therefore whatever sexuality they are -straight, gay, bi, whatever- also forms later.

But when then sexual urges come into effect you already know or are confused about what triggers them urges. Most people know what floats their boats and gay people mainly suppress it because of the stigma they believe it holds.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

But when then sexual urges come into effect you already know or are confused about what triggers them urges. Most people know what floats their boats and gay people mainly suppress it because of the stigma they believe it holds.

Yes but have you known from BIRTH? No. It's formed as you've grown up and then you reach sexual maturity and you're aware of what turns you on.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes but have you known from BIRTH? No. It's formed as you've grown up and then you reach sexual maturity and you're aware of what turns you on.

No one knows anything at birth except how to suck on a tit(the irony for a gay man) but I had an inkling when I was very young and I can't explain why I had that feeling. I didn't know what it was until I started to get them urges.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

No one knows anything at birth except how to suck on a tit(the irony for a gay man) but I had an inkling when I was very young and I can't explain why I had that feeling. I didn't know what it was until I started to get them urges.

Very young. That doesn't suggest you were born with that feeling. It still developed, just as EVERYTHING about a person develops after birth.

I'm not suggesting you can't be a gay six year old (albeit without knowing about sex at that age). But that six year old hasn't been gay from birth.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Very young. That doesn't suggest you were born with that feeling. It still developed, just as EVERYTHING about a person develops after birth.

But it still developed at a very young age. I'm talking 5-6yrs old. I still had a hell of a lot of developing to do which is why I don't favour the nuture argument.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

But it still developed at a very young age. I'm talking 5-6yrs old. I still had a hell of a lot of developing to do which is why I don't favour the nuture argument.

Yes, you still had a lot of developing to do, in all areas of who you are as a person.

Nobody is saying you've developed into a homosexual at 5 and then your dad's shouting developed you to a heterosexual by age 10.

But whatever age you can say you "knew" you were gay or whatever else, it still developed AFTER birth.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I remember my Psychology teacher mentioning we'll be looking at sexuality in a few months..

so I'll report back to yall and provide you with the deets

I expect a lot of it will be rooted in nature, as is naturally usually the case with psychology

Originally Posted by Quasar

But it still developed at a very young age. I'm talking 5-6yrs old. I still had a hell of a lot of developing to do which is why I don't favour the nuture argument.

Your sexuality will have absolutely been established by that age, we're not talking about sexuality forming in puberty, it will have been rooted in the very early developmental stages of a child's life along with gender (before you would even consciously think about it), but that doesn't mean it's not a thing

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Quasar

No one knows anything at birth except how to suck on a tit(the irony for a gay man) but I had an inkling when I was very young and I can't explain why I had that feeling. I didn't know what it was until I started to get them urges.

Yeah, for me at least, I knew I was different from a young age. I couldn't quite put my finger on it but when I realised I was gay it felt almost like I had always known it.

That sounded so deep

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yeah, for me at least, I knew I was different from a young age. I couldn't quite put my finger on it but when I realised I was gay it felt almost like I had always known it.

That sounded so deep

That's how it feels for everyone. That's not a counter argument against the "nurture" stuff.

We can all only remember being who we are because that's the way it is.

I can't remember being inside mother as a baby with no knowledge of anything.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's how it feels for everyone. That's not a counter argument against the "nurture" stuff.

We can all only remember being who we are because that's the way it is.

I can't remember being inside mother as a baby with no knowledge of anything.

Oh that wasn't a counter-argument, just thought you might find it relatable or something