[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are fully entitled to your view Josh and I agree there does need to be a 2 Nation state solution.

I am far from anti Israel, I fully take on board how hard it must be for Israel existing with so many hostile and really extreme Nations around them too.
However there are wrongs on both Israel's and the Palestinian sides which hopefully one day will get thrashed out and a meaningful solution found.
Which brings in and are based on mutual and fair respect for both Israelis and Palestinians.

You hold onto your views and don't be put down by anyone, we all have to learn and just picking at what someone says is hardly productive anyway.

In my opinion,you talk a great deal of sense, and more often than not, your posts are well balanced too.
Many hold the view you currently have too, I give you massive credit in the first place for even looking for a view.
If only more like you were really interested in the World and World affairs.

No one is 'picking on' Josh, Joey. This is a - supposedly - adult forum where mature people discuss Serious topics. Josh's age has absolutely nothing to do with it - if he is old enough to proffer an opinion then he is old enough to receive a response.

I defy you or anyone to show me just where I have 'put' Josh down anymore than any of us are 'put down' on this forum by those who do not hold the same view.

Personally, I am sick and tired of the dishonesty which is employed by some on this forum - misrepresenting the true situation purely to make political capital out of it.

It was the same on another thread with a certain member wrongly claiming that I "had gotten personal" with Josh, when I had not, but - conveniently - there was no mention of Josh accusing me of being racist and xenophobic, which IS highly offensive and personal, when I am not.

LeatherTrumpet, Kyle and others have often greeted some of my posts with far more toxicity than I ever have with Josh, but I love and respect both of them.

If Josh puts a view forward on a forum, then please allow those of us who do not fit your particular ideologies to respond.

Josh started the discussion by stating surprise that I do not support the Palestinian version of events with Israel.

Do all you Left Wing on here REALLY want a forum where only one little clique dare express views?

I know it would suit certain member, but guess what Joey? I will not be forced to remain silent - whether by being 'outnumbered' or 'whether' due to intimidation by false accusation.

Josh has elected to join an adult forum and to discuss grown up topics, so please allow him to do just that.

And mods - please do not remove my post or infract me - I stand 'accused' whether named or not, and I am merely putting my response forward and explaining my view.

I have not been offensive to anyone in this response.