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letmein · 06-10-2015, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad

Your surroundings can influence your mind and actions. Theres no scientific verification that approves the genetic inborn concept. It's pseudo science which has been nullified by top scientific researchers like niel whitehead who is non biased and non religious dna scientist. This idea is just a media propaganda to confuse onces own identity and in the long run will have adverse effects. My view is you can be gay, but forcing these discourse into the schools to children is wrong and in many ways will further influence the youngster.

Oh, stop.

Mystic Mock · 06-10-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

Children are sexual beings. Haven't you ever heard of "puppy love"? It's always there. It grows over time, the attraction, that is. You just don't have a name for it.

It's just weird to me because I was about 9 when I saw Claire from Heroes in a Cheerleading outfit if you get what I mean.

Ashley. · 06-10-2015, 11:39 AM

Maybe there's a possibility that you are born gay, because there's been research into if sexuality is in the brain and thus already decides for you when you are born.

Marsh. · 06-10-2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

How would you even know your sexuality at that age? Unless it's more of a subconscious feeling?

I didn't know my sexuality. I didn't force myself to get an erection.

Crimson Dynamo · 06-10-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's just weird to me because I was about 9 when I saw Claire from Heroes in a Cheerleading outfit if you get what I mean.

i was listening to an ages old Chris Moyles show today and he was telling the team about Heros (it had not aired in the UK then) and he was perving over Claire

Z · 06-10-2015, 08:56 PM

I don't think any good will come of the day they manage to pinpoint why some people are homosexual while others are not. It will only lead to people trying to 'cure' or get rid of homosexuality/homosexuals in general and that opens up a huge can of worms that I'm not sure anyone wants to discuss.

Personally, I think that when you're born, your development is a combination of physical and mental growth and your mental growth is heavily influenced by your environment. It surely explains why people are gay or are scientific or artistic or any other of a million other things that people can be. I don't know what 'causes' people to be gay but I think it's within the realms of possibility that you can 1) be predisposed to being gay due to your genes and/or 2) you 'become' gay through some mystery factor(s) at a young age, so it's therefore neither a choice nor something you're born with.

I suppose I think that way because I've met gay people who have gay siblings - twice I've met gay guys who also have two gay brothers; my current flatmate is gay and his sister is a lesbian... and on the other hand, both of my brothers are heterosexual. I believe one day people will understand how and why it happens but it may be that it's still something that's out of human control.

Johnnyuk123 · 06-10-2015, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

I somewhat disagree with people who say that you're "born" gay. While this is the case for some people, I think some people can "develop" homosexuality in their later life and begin to show an interest for the same gender over a certain period of time.

What are your thoughts on this?

Everyone is aware that some people are born deaf and blind or with learning difficulties and the rest etc and none of those born this way asked to be born like this at all but they were, yet no one questions the validity of those people at all ( as they should not ).... so yes, it is fair to say that people are born gay, just like many people just happen to be born straight. Bottom line for me is that people are simply just people. Nothing more and nothing less. Just people. )

Marsh. · 06-10-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Everyone is aware that some people are born deaf and blind or with learning difficulties and the rest etc and none of those born this way asked to be born like this at all but they were, yet no one questions the validity of those people at all ( as they should not ).... so yes, it is fair to say that people are born gay, just like many people just happen to be born straight. Bottom line for me is that people are simply just people. Nothing more and nothing less. Just people. )

Why you're comparing it to these physical conditions I have no idea.

Johnnyuk123 · 06-10-2015, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why you're comparing it to these physical conditions I have no idea.

So you believe that being gay is not something born from birth?

Johnnyuk123 · 06-10-2015, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why you're comparing it to these physical conditions I have no idea.

So basically you are saying that being born blind or deaf is ok but we should never compare that with anyone being born gay cos that never happens?

Don't make sense to me.

Johnnyuk123 · 06-10-2015, 11:34 PM

All those blind deaf and gay folks are up in arms right now.

arista · 07-10-2015, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad

Your surroundings can influence your mind and actions. Theres no scientific verification that approves the genetic inborn concept. It's pseudo science which has been nullified by top scientific researchers like niel whitehead who is non biased and non religious dna scientist. This idea is just a media propaganda to confuse onces own identity and in the long run will have adverse effects. My view is you can be gay, but forcing these discourse into the schools to children is wrong and in many ways will further influence the youngster.

No its more simple you are born that way

Marsh. · 07-10-2015, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

So basically you are saying that being born blind or deaf is ok but we should never compare that with anyone being born gay cos that never happens?

Don't make sense to me.

No I'm saying discussing the development of our personality traits and sexuality is not really the same as someone born blind or any other physical differences.

I love how you have proof people are born gay though.
All those homosexual babies right?

You seem to be saying sexuality is a physical attribute akin to blindness? Do we have gay and straight organs now?

lostalex · 07-10-2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's just weird to me because I was about 9 when I saw Claire from Heroes in a Cheerleading outfit if you get what I mean.

then you know how i felt as a 9 y/o watching American Gladiators on saturday mornings. all those super buff men in tiny little spandex singlets with hot names like Titan and Nitro and they were so angry and aggressive *drools like homer*

letmein · 07-10-2015, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

then you know how i felt as a 9 y/o watching American Gladiators on saturday mornings. all those super buff men in tiny little spandex singlets with hot names like Titan and Nitro and they were so angry and aggressive *drools like homer*

Marsh. · 07-10-2015, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Ngl he is probably the reason I have gay tendencies. Quite an awakening to preteen shaun. Bye though!

Ref: Ryan Thomas

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/Case closed

Shaun · 07-10-2015, 03:59 AM

don't use me for your agenda marsh

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

So basically you are saying that being born blind or deaf is ok but we should never compare that with anyone being born gay cos that never happens?

Don't make sense to me.

Thats a pretty dumb comparison,

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2015, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i was listening to an ages old Chris Moyles show today and he was telling the team about Heros (it had not aired in the UK then) and he was perving over Claire

Chris Moyles has taste.

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2015, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

then you know how i felt as a 9 y/o watching American Gladiators on saturday mornings. all those super buff men in tiny little spandex singlets with hot names like Titan and Nitro and they were so angry and aggressive *drools like homer*

I could only imagine Lostalex.

Johnnyuk123 · 07-10-2015, 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Marsh.;8207013]No I'm saying discussing the development of our personality traits and sexuality is not really the same as someone born blind or any other physical differences.

I love how you have proof people are born gay though.

Do you or anyone have proof that people are born straight?

Crimson Dynamo · 07-10-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

No I'm saying discussing the development of our personality traits and sexuality is not really the same as someone born blind or any other physical differences.

I love how you have proof people are born gay though.

Do you or anyone have proof that people are born straight?

When I was born I slapped the midwifes arse