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Old 06-11-2015, 08:14 PM #1
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Ha Ha - You are but novices.

I am forever being 'misunderstood' and perceived as 'Racist' or 'Xenophobic' when I am nothing of the sort.

I do tell the truth though and sometimes that is not what some want to hear if it does not fit in with their own naive viewpoints.

Ah well; 'C'est La Vie'
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Ha Ha - You are but novices.

I am forever being 'misunderstood' and perceived as 'Racist' or 'Xenophobic' when I am nothing of the sort.

I do tell the truth though and sometimes that is not what some want to hear if it does not fit in with their own naive viewpoints.

Ah well; 'C'est La Vie'
Misunderstood?

That's what all grumpy old men say.

You hate the world and the world hates you.

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...yeah, it's a pretty grim and serious thing to lay on someone, so I understand what you mean, Amy...and think that any possible misunderstoods should always be clarified first so there is no room for misunderstood, when inferring something in that vein...and the worry for me is the danger that it can just dilute and dilute and dilute etc, so that people think...'oh not again..'/type thing and racism not be acknowledged or recognised when it really should be...
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...yeah, it's a pretty grim and serious thing to lay on someone, so I understand what you mean, Amy...and think that any possible misunderstoods should always be clarified first so there is no room for misunderstood, when inferring something in that vein...and the worry for me is the danger that it can just dilute and dilute and dilute etc, so that people think...'oh not again..'/type thing and racism not be acknowledged or recognised when it really should be...
I agree with this 100%! Being truly racist is such a serious thing, that when the term is thrown around at anyone because issues of race are brought into a discussion, it, well as Ammi says, dilutes the meaning of the word and renders it meaningless. As a big gayer I don't mind if someone wants to have a laugh at my expense, or joke about my sexuality etc, if that's all it is. It's about intent. So not necessarily what is said but what is meant by it. I suppose it's just that on a forum, when you aren't face to face with the person, it's more difficult to express the meaning behind your words which is why things can often be misinterpreted?
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I agree with this 100%! Being truly racist is such a serious thing, that when the term is thrown around at anyone because issues of race are brought into a discussion, it, well as Ammi says, dilutes the meaning of the word and renders it meaningless. As a big gayer I don't mind if someone wants to have a laugh at my expense, or joke about my sexuality etc, if that's all it is. It's about intent. So not necessarily what is said but what is meant by it. I suppose it's just that on a forum, when you aren't face to face with the person, it's more difficult to express the meaning behind your words which is why things can often be misinterpreted?
I KNOW you from the mutual games we have played together, and from your excellent posts on diverse threads, and you really are an informed, intelligent and reasoned person Liam.

Yet another brilliant post.
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I KNOW you from the mutual games we have played together, and from your excellent posts on diverse threads, and you really are an informed, intelligent and reasoned person Liam.

Yet another brilliant post.
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Misunderstood?

That's what all grumpy old men say.

You hate the world and the world hates you.
You are almost correct Marsh, but I don't hate the world - just some of the despicable scumbags in it. Mind, that number is rapidly growing.
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Ha Ha - You are but novices.

I am forever being 'misunderstood' and perceived as 'Racist' or 'Xenophobic' when I am nothing of the sort.

I do tell the truth though and sometimes that is not what some want to hear if it does not fit in with their own naive viewpoints.

Ah well; 'C'est La Vie'

Well maybe you need to reword some of your posts then because more than one person has "misunderstood" your point of view. I'm sure with your impressive CV you can do this
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Well maybe you need to reword some of your posts then because more than one person has "misunderstood" your point of view. I'm sure with your impressive CV you can do this
Now, I do not wish to waste my time on a Saturday morning becoming dragged into futile gument - I really don't - but here I could be forgiven for MISUNDERSTANDING:

1) Your real reason for coming onto this thread and commenting on yet another of my posts which was NOT addressed to you and which was made in the same non-toxic, lighthearted vein as the other posts on this thread.

2) Why you did so to resurrect a particularly heated exchange from another thread, in which - exactly as the OP outlines here - I was lambasted for speaking the truth by a few people who MISUNDERSTOOD what I was saying - some of them DELIBERATELY misinterpreting what I said so that they could attack me and make capital out of the situation.

3) And why you feel that you can conceal here, your patently transparent and unnecessary sarcastic derision of my English qualifications - "impressive C.V" - by the addition of a 'Tee Hee; emoticon.

I COULD misunderstand the above, but of course, I know that you would not do such a thing.

Incidentally, when you say: "more than one person has"misunderstood" your point of view, you are really saying that less than a handful of the 'usual suspects' have CLAIMED to misunderstand my point of view, but this is negated by the 'more than a handful' of members who DO understand my point of view, in addition to the many, many, members who have read my posts but have declined to comment - one way or the other.

Probably through fear of suffering the very backlash of being accused of Xenophobia or Racism, EXACTLY as the OP states.

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As usual you have had a MAJOR sense of humour failure over my post, let face it you were making a sly dig in yours and that is what you came into the thread to do, so whats not respond to. Not sure who these "usual suspects" are that you keep referring to, If I have a point if view I will air it, I don't resort to pming to get back up or have a moan.
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