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'Send them all back'

What a blatantly xenophobic comment to make? Lets just hope you never move abroad and that five english people don't rape a child there. Let's hope nobody makes the same generalisation that you just did that all of the syrian refugees pose a risk of raping young children.. honestly I can't believe the ignorance in what you said.
If 5 English men did it in Syria they would be killed
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So you think this is alright because its not all of them and the sun printed it?
I think the crime that these five are alleged to have committed is absolutely horrific and if they are found guilty then all of them should be dealt with. But it is absolutely unfair to send back all of the syrian refugees we have taken on the basis of a crime they did not commit.

My reference to The Sun here was pointing out that they are a racist newspaper, whether it is clear at first glance or not. Throughout the 'migrant crisis' we have been seeing on the news, they have been printing constant opposition to us taking in refugees who flee war. If you have any doubts as to whether or not they are racist - you are free to take a look at Katie Hopkins' article for them where she described her view that we should use gunships on these people. Absolutely heartless.
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If 5 English men did it in Syria they would be killed
That's irrelevant. If five english men committed rape in syria, then those five english men should face the punishment there and them alone. Your comparison is illogical, because in this hypothetical situation they are not calling for all english people to be 'sent back'.. or in the case of Syria's preferred punishment, as you put it, would be killed.

But just to make it clear, I am not a supporter of the death penalty and I think it should be internationally outlawed on the basis that it infringes upon human rights.
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I think the crime that these five are alleged to have committed is absolutely horrific and if they are found guilty then all of them should be dealt with. But it is absolutely unfair to send back all of the syrian refugees we have taken on the basis of a crime they did not commit.

My reference to The Sun here was pointing out that they are a racist newspaper, whether it is clear at first glance or not. Throughout the 'migrant crisis' we have been seeing on the news, they have been printing constant opposition to us taking in refugees who flee war. If you have any doubts as to whether or not they are racist - you are free to take a look at Katie Hopkins' article for them where she described her view that we should use gunships on these people. Absolutely heartless.
This story has been picked up by a lot of newspapers not just The Sun.

My feeling is if we invite someone to our country and they commit any crime they should serve there sentence then move them back to there own country.
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If 5 English men did it in Syria they would be killed
That has nothing to do with the laws of the UK, it has nothing to do with the many Syrian refugees who just want to live in peace. Your point has no point.
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That has nothing to do with the laws of the UK, it has nothing to do with the many Syrian refugees who just want to live in peace. Your point has no point.
My point is immigrants who commit crimes in this country should be extradited and banned from ever coming back.
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This story has been picked up by a lot of newspapers not just The Sun.

My feeling is if we invite someone to our country and they commit any crime they should serve there sentence then move them back to there own country.
That's quite different from sending all syrian migrants back as a result of a crime only two men have been charged with. I'm glad your opinion has changed nonetheless.
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That's quite different from sending all syrian migrants back as a result of a crime only two men have been charged with. I'm glad your opinion has changed nonetheless.
That has always been my opinion I've not changed it.
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It's possible the 5th was not able to be found
2 were charged and 2 were released so 5 did not commit rape
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My point is immigrants who commit crimes in this country should be extradited and banned from ever coming back.
That's generally what happens anyway so i'm not sure why you're making out that it doesn't.
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2 were charged and 2 were released so 5 did not commit rape
The police were told by the girl she thinks it was 5 men
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That's generally what happens anyway so i'm not sure why you're making out that it doesn't.
It doesn't
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'Send them all back'

What a blatantly xenophobic comment to make? Lets just hope you never move abroad and that five english people don't rape a child there. Let's hope nobody makes the same generalisation that you just did that all of the syrian refugees pose a risk of raping young children.. honestly I can't believe the ignorance in what you said.
Its not only tragic that people make comments like hers, its sickening.

What people need to realise is, these rapists didn't rape this girl because they are Syrian, they raped her because they are rapists.
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Its not only tragic that people make comments like hers, its sickening.

What people need to realise is, these rapists didn't rape this girl because they are Syrian, they raped her because they are rapists.
Yes but because there not British they should be sent out of the country and not allowed back.

We can't banned British rapist from there own country but we can ban rapists from other countries coming back.
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Just thought I would point out the 'send them all back' comment was about the men involved not legitimate asylum seekers.

I am the furthest thing from racist nor xenophobic.
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well this is what happens when, the left wing nutters want no borders, or nations too exist, there is a reason why we have borders, you must understand that women in the middle east are treated like cattle, or nothing but servants to there husbands, sexual harassment is rife in arab countries, arab men have a culture thinking that is not compatible too are way of life, would any british parent want there son or daughter to marry into a culture like that, no, my parents would never accept it, are leaders are so stupid, and can not see the amount of trouble that these people will cause, why are people in europe in revolt, and are heading to the right, well it was not an accident was it.
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Just thought I would point out the 'send them all back' comment was about the men involved not legitimate asylum seekers.

I am the furthest thing from racist nor xenophobic.
You are beginning to sound like me Amy Jade. I KNOW what you meant anyway, which is what I applauded and why I applauded.
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Yes but because there not British they should be sent out of the country and not allowed back.

We can't banned British rapist from there own country but we can ban rapists from other countries coming back.
If someone gets caught for committing a crime in this country, they will serve their time in this country. At the end of their sentence, they may well be deported.
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Just thought I would point out the 'send them all back' comment was about the men involved not legitimate asylum seekers.

I am the furthest thing from racist nor xenophobic.
Thanks for clearing that one up. It was an easy mistake to make
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It doesn't
Oh, extradition is a myth then? Perhaps you should inform the courts about it, they've been operating under the assumption that it's something they can do for quite some time now.
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Oh, extradition is a myth then? Perhaps you should inform the courts about it, they've been operating under the assumption that it's something they can do for quite some time now.
Many foreign criminal are allowed to stay in the UK to recomitt
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It doesn't

No - It doesn't Adam. You are correct:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-prisons.html

THIS EVIL BASTAR



TORTURED AND MURDERED THIS POOR LITTLE CHILD - HER OWN SON:



WITH HER 34 YEAR OLD SADISTIC BOYFRIEND MARIUSZ KREZOLEK WHO HAD ALREADY BEEN JAILED IN THIS COUNTRY THREE TIMES AND ARRESTED AT LEAST SIX TIMES BUT HAD NEVER BEEN PUT ON A PLANE BACK TO POLAN



Poles Mariusz Krezolek and Magdelena Luczak are serving life behind bars for the savage murder of her four-year-old son Daniel Pelka in Coventry.
The couple, who moved to Britain from Poland, tortured and killed Daniel in a campaign of cruelty that culminated in his death from a head injury in March 2012.

He died completely emaciated, locked in a cold room on a soiled mattress.
In horrific court testimony, it was revealed that Luczak, 28, and her 34-year-old partner Krezolek starved Daniel, force-fed him salt and held the child under water.

Sadistic Krezolek had already been jailed in this country three times and arrested at least six times for offences including assault and burglary. But despite his serial offending, he was never put on a plane back to Poland – leaving him free to kill Daniel.

In August last year, the couple were both sentenced to a minimum of 30 years, and are eligible for the compulsory prisoner transfer agreement.
Luczak’s term is one of the longest jail terms given to a woman in Britain, the same as child-killer Beverley Allitt and exceeded by only Rose West and Myra Hindley.

The cost of keeping Krezolek and Luczak locked up in a British jail is around Ł80,000 a year. If both serve their entire sentence here, the bill to the taxpayer will be a minimum of Ł2.4million.
Yesterday, it emerged they had been refused leave to appeal. Lawyers say they plan to continue their legal fight.
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Thanks for clearing that one up. It was an easy mistake to make
I back read and I didn't make it clear but yeah legitimate people deserve help but the ones who come over and commit crimes I think they should be sent back, all of them.
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Still think this forum desperately needs a "backpedaling" gif.

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disgusting. If its true, send the guilty ones back.
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