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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

And this isn't the first time Russia have violated Turkish air space either. http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...olations-syria
What we must keep in mind is, The Russians have been bombing the Turkmans who's rebel armies sit on the borders between Turkey and Syria. The Turkmans want to overthrow Assad and ISIS. The Turks support the Turkmans and so they will have zero tolerance with the Russians.

I know the Russians claim they were bombing ISIS but the Turkmans claim there is no ISIS groups within the area that's being targeted.

the fact that Airspace around the is violated all the time, you know those frequent reports about Russia violating Swedish airspace? well Nato violated it a lot more times then Russia since 2010, as for violations in Turkey airspace Isreal have done it in the past, the point is this is a frequent thing but why was today the right time to shoot down a single plane? how can it be justified?

[Z]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

the fact that Airspace around the is violated all the time, you know those frequent reports about Russia violating Swedish airspace? well Nato violated it a lot more times then Russia since 2010, as for violations in Turkey airspace Isreal have done it in the past, the point is this is a frequent thing but why was today the right time to shoot down a single plane? how can it be justified?

Because Turkey gives no ****s and knows perfectly well that the EU and NATO needs it as much as it needs them and finally had the perfect opportunity to exploit that loophole. Shoot down a Russian aircraft: no one will lift a finger to lay any blame at their doorstep because Turkey is a NATO ally and Russia wants to preserve the """""AXIS OF EVIL"""""........................................ the whole rhetoric is just stupid. Russia bombs ethnic Turkic people because they don't want Turkey to gobble up Assad's remaining terrain when Team America: World Police finally depose him. Turkey quietly supports ISIS and massacres its own Kurdish citizens to stop them from creating their own state in the chaos and gaining revenge somewhere down the line for the decades of oppression Turkey has imposed on them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

the fact that Airspace around the is violated all the time, you know those frequent reports about Russia violating Swedish airspace? well Nato violated it a lot more times then Russia since 2010, as for violations in Turkey airspace Isreal have done it in the past, the point is this is a frequent thing but why was today the right time to shoot down a single plane? how can it be justified?

Israel had an agreement to use Turkish airspace up until 2009. I don't recall any examples of Israeli planes violating Turkish airspace since then. The agreement ceased following Turkey's stance on Gaza and is unlikely to be reinstated following Turkish involvement in exposing Israeli special agents in Iran a couple of years ago.