[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well no I would try and bring along as many of my family members as much as possible, if none of them wanted to go then yes I would still flee anyway as I'd given them the chance to avoid the scenarios that you're saying, but they didn't take it, which these men might've took my approach anyway.

Exactly Mock, none of us even have the slightest idea as to whether that was in fact the case too, that others didn't want to leave at that time,then the younger ones left.

It seems some know 100% for sure that 'all' of these desperate people are only 'illegal' immigrants, all of them.
That's actually even something govts and security people cannot say with full certainty.
Incredible.