[arista]

This was debated on Ch5HD


Angela Halliwell, 35, complained:
“Kids could think extreme
violence like beheading is normal.”

[Angela, of Tooting, South London, has complained to Ofcom.
The Beeb said it had no plans to remove it from the CBBC website. ]

Video on here
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...kids-show.html



Whatever Next ?

[kirklancaster]

FFS - This is outrageous. Just more atrocious misuse of tax-payers money by a corporation which contemptuously cares less and less for the old values and the public.

[Kizzy]

More paranoia, this is a kids show about everyday objects with googly eyes get some perspective.
It's a boiled egg.

[Mitchell]

It's a ****ing egg

[Firewire]

It doesn't even have a neck

[Babayaro.]

What a load of bull whack

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Carly Sleigh Jepsen

It doesn't even have a neck

[Shaun]

He probably deserved it

[Denver]

Its a shame it was egg-cecuted

[arista]

Originally Posted by Queen Mitchell

It's a ****ing egg

she must have Isis on her mind

[Crimson Dynamo]

prior to that beheading it was boiled alive in boiling water

[smudgie]

What about dipping those poor soldiers in the egg.

Silly woman, hopefully children watching their kids shows will have no knowledge of the beheadings taking place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

prior to that beheading it was boiled alive in boiling water

how nice

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

FFS - This is outrageous. Just more atrocious misuse of tax-payers money by a corporation which contemptuously cares less and less for the old values and the public.

Don't be ridiculous, the BBC still spends plenty of money on investing in 'quality programming' such as their dramas, just because a children's show involving an egg exists it doesn't make it a waste of money. It's not supposed to be targeted at you or me.

This is exactly the kind of attitude that has led to BBC3's demise as a television channel, the belief that the only thing the BBC should be spending money on is so called 'quality' programming which is usually yet more drama, whilst anything else that caters for other demographics - especially the young in recent years - is a waste of time and money, all because the people who are setting the agenda feel it doesn't cater for them, which it shouldn't...because they're not its target market.

The point of the BBC is that it should cater for all, and while I think children's programming has gone down the pisser in the last decade, that's simply because it's no longer relevant to me, and I understandably yearn for the past. As will be the case with generation after generation. That doesn't mean I think money shouldn't be spent on it, there are plenty of things that cater for me on the BBC, and plenty of things that don't. That's the way it should be, it's not all about me me me.

[Babayaro.]

I smell a whiff of serious debates & news

[Niamh.]

The egg was toast :'(

[AnnieK]

Lol.....what a yolk

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by JackFrost

Don't be ridiculous, the BBC still spends plenty of money on investing in 'quality programming' such as their dramas, just because a children's show involving an egg exists it doesn't make it a waste of money. It's not supposed to be targeted at you or me.

This is exactly the kind of attitude that has led to BBC3's demise as a television channel, the belief that the only thing the BBC should be spending money on is so called 'quality' programming which is usually yet more drama, whilst anything else that caters for other demographics - especially the young in recent years - is a waste of time and money, all because the people who are setting the agenda feel it doesn't cater for them, which it shouldn't...because they're not its target market.

The point of the BBC is that it should cater for all, and while I think children's programming has gone down the pisser in the last decade, that's simply because it's no longer relevant to me, and I understandably yearn for the past. As will be the case with generation after generation. That doesn't mean I think money shouldn't be spent on it, there are plenty of things that cater for me on the BBC, and plenty of things that don't. That's the way it should be, it's not all about me me me.

I am not being 'ridiculous'. I am stating an opinion based on many years of witnessing the impairment in quality of SOME - not all of the BEEB's programmes.

Your post seems to suggest that because WE adults are not the 'target market' that we should abdicate our parental responsibilities, which IS ridiculous.

In the particular kid's show under discussion, I find it very sinister indeed that an innocent tradition such as a child having a boiled egg is needlessly portrayed in such a graphic manner.

Following generations of tradition, I served my tots with soft boiled eggs in eggcups, and I removed the top of the eggs and cut buttered bread into strips for them to dip in to the egg with. Following the same traditions, I called the bread strips 'soldiers'.

So I find it highly disturbing that the boiled egg in question has been humanised and is replete with a face, and that the top of this humanised egg is so violently sliced off by a 'soldier'. I think the connotations are too glaring to be denied; soldier-beheading, especially given what is ocurring in the world at present.

Cartoons and kids TV programmes have always been violent, but in a surreal fantastic exaggerated way which does not have the same connotations which this programme has, and children have lost so much of childishness already over the years, so is there really any need to strip away yet more of a child's innocence in this manner?

I fail to see how parental concern, or dissatisfaction with some of the poor quality drivel which is screened by the Beeb now, is a contributary factor in the demise of BBC3 as a television channel?

And I am not saying that all the BBC should be spending money on is 'quality' programmes - mainly 'Drama' or otherwise, because I have no problem with 'diversity' of programme types - more with 'perversity' of programme content -- Especially where tiny children ARE the 'target market'.

This is not about 'me, me, me' - it's about whether as an adult I have a right to decide whether I think a particular programme is crap or not, whether as a parent I have the right to decide whether that programme is unsuitable viewing for tiny kids or not, and whether as a licence fee payer, I have a right to make my views known or not.

You of course, are as equally entitled to make your views known - as you have done.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am not being 'ridiculous'. I am stating an opinion based on many years of witnessing the impairment in quality of SOME - not all of the BEEB's programmes.

Your post seems to suggest that because WE adults are not the 'target market' that we should abdicate our parental responsibilities, which IS ridiculous.

In the particular kid's show under discussion, I find it very sinister indeed that an innocent tradition such as a child having a boiled egg is needlessly portrayed in such a graphic manner.

Following generations of tradition, I served my tots with soft boiled eggs in eggcups, and I removed the top of the eggs and cut buttered bread into strips for them to dip in to the egg with. Following the same traditions, I called the bread strips 'soldiers'.

So I find it highly disturbing that the boiled egg in question has been humanised and is replete with a face, and that the top of this humanised egg is so violently sliced off by a 'soldier'. I think the connotations are too glaring to be denied; soldier-beheading, especially given what is ocurring in the world at present.

Cartoons and kids TV programmes have always been violent, but in a surreal fantastic exaggerated way which does not have the same connotations which this programme has, and children have lost so much of childishness already over the years, so is there really any need to strip away yet more of a child's innocence in this manner?

I fail to see how parental concern, or dissatisfaction with some of the poor quality drivel which is screened by the Beeb now, is a contributary factor in the demise of BBC3 as a television channel?

And I am not saying that all the BBC should be spending money on is 'quality' programmes - mainly 'Drama' or otherwise, because I have no problem with 'diversity' of programme types - more with 'perversity' of programme content -- Especially where tiny children ARE the 'target market'.

This is not about 'me, me, me' - it's about whether as an adult I have a right to decide whether I think a particular programme is crap or not, whether as a parent I have the right to decide whether that programme is unsuitable viewing for tiny kids or not, and whether as a licence fee payer, I have a right to make my views known or not.

You of course, are as equally entitled to make your views known - as you have done.

My mistake, I assumed your criticism was directed at how ridiculous the programme looks, rather than it's connotations.

Having said that, the idea that the creators of this show have discreetly placed some cultural references to beheadings is both absurd and hilarious to me. But each to their own, of course.

[Denver]

Hopefully they will scramble together a nice memorial

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Donder Kebab

Hopefully they will scramble together a nice memorial

It would be shellfish of them not to

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by JackFrost

My mistake, I assumed your criticism was directed at how ridiculous the programme looks, rather than it's connotations.

Having said that, the idea that the creators of this show have discreetly placed some cultural references to beheadings is both absurd and hilarious to me. But each to their own, of course.

No problem Jack.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

It would be shellfish of them not to

Hopefully they poach the best vicar for the service

[bots]

i don't think the eggs should get to whisked up about this, its sunny side up compared with St Benidicts day

[Ammi]

...so the end of neggotiations then...