[Ashley.]

Isn't that weird? They're brought into this world and they haven't a clue what the **** they're doing, they're just eating grass or rolling around in mud. They have no concept of Death because they can't speak words to know what it means. They're just living. No worries. No stresses.

[MB.]

erm

(also people who can't speak English probably still know what death is)

[JoshBB]

at least they don't have to think about the tory government

[Mokka]

they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

[Jamie89]

Maybe they're thinking the same about us

[Crimson Dynamo]

very much like religionists

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

at least they don't have to think about the tory government

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

very much like religionists

Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs

[MB.]

Donald Trump

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs

yes, the thread is misplaced

[Lostie!]

I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Frostie!

I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

of course they do

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by PeppermintMokka

they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

[T*]

You can't speak animal though

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

very much like religionists

Happy Hanukkah, Trumpet.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Sleighmie

Maybe they're thinking the same about us

I wonder how they think. They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her"




Or can they

[Cal.]

I always think stuff like this but different, like it's weird that my dogs literally just think about eating/barking at passing people/going for walks when we have so much to think about like they must have so much clarity.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland

I wonder how they think. They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her"




Or can they

Well they do but it's just not in words

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland

Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland

I wonder how they think. They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her"




Or can they

Are you stoned?

[kirklancaster]

No one KNOWS what cognitive abilities animals have - or any other cerebral capabilities because we cannot communicate with them in any common language.

How does ANYONE know whether your dog is sat there thinking; "Stop munching down that second bag of crisps you fat ****, turn off the TV and take me for a walk"?

A lot of animals certainly seem to me to have a lot more common sense and intelligence than a lot of 'humans' - and they are certainly far less cruel and evil.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by PeppermintMokka

Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

Exactly this, and they can communicate with each other to some degree so they understand a little bit more than most people would give them credit for.

[bots]

Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner

Since we're talking about how great animals are, let's take a moment to appreciate the otter...



Holding hands so they don't drift apart