[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

BNP? Nono, it was UKIP. Remember UKIP?

No.UKIP ARE the moderate alternative.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I don't usually converse with you because you only ever seem to jump on here when your reassured your opinions will be backed but as usual, you are spouting nonsense, so I'll have my say.

Its not only the left who are (as you suggest) getting their knickers in a twist. Many Conservatives are outraged and have made public statements about that outrage.

Ismic fundamentalists are not allowed to preach from pulpits or even from prayer mats to justify what happened in Paris. If they get caught they will be arrested, named, shamed, possibly tagged and risk imprisonment and even deportation.

Most people on the Left, Right and Middle don't agree with Trump but Far Right do and from where I'm sitting, its the far right who are getting their knickers in a wad.

Most people on the Left, Right and Middle would happily see Islamic hate preachers deported.

a) No one in their right mind is claiming that what Trump is saying is RIGHT. We have all condemned it as xenophobic, ludicrous and unworkable in one set of terms or another.

b) What most of us are saying and defending, is Trump's RIGHT to say what he has said under the laws of Free Speech in his OWN Country.

c) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, inciting Muslims to go out and kill British citizens and the citizens of other Western countries. Trump is not inciting Americans to go out and kill Muslims or behead them.

d) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, contemptuously 'laughing in the faces' of the British Government and the British people by mocking the deaths of British soldiers and proclaiming the terrorist scum behind 911 and other atrocities as heroes whilst they were LIVING here enjoying the freedoms and Social Security benefits w afforded them . Trump has done nothing similar or said anything even as remotely as offensive as these disgusting bastards, and Trump has not lived here or sponged off the British taxpayer whilst uttering his particular brand of xenophobia.

e) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have, and still do, scream their detestation of the British and Britain. Trump has not.

The points which I and certain others were raising was; that the hysterical clamour for Trump's head by certain 'factions', is far in excess of any reaction to these Islamic Hate Preachers racist, xenophobic, callous and murderous rantings, and there was NO petition of any kind to ban these bastards from our shores.

Trump is NOT the issue - the capital making by opportunist sinister factions who are anti-Democracy, anti-British, anti-Western, is the issue.

Trump is NOT a threat to the UK - UK Hating Islamic Preachers and Muslim radicalisers who are or have been resident here ARE a threat.

You cry about 'The Far Right' on these forums and complain that anyone against Trump is called by some; anti-patriotic or worse, but the sword swings both ways, and those of us who do nothing more than defend Trump's right to say what he said in his OWN country, are called racists, xenophobic or worse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

a) No one in their right mind is claiming that what Trump is saying is RIGHT. We have all condemned it as xenophobic, ludicrous and unworkable in one set of terms or another.

b) What most of us are saying and defending, is Trump's RIGHT to say what he has said under the laws of Free Speech in his OWN Country.

c) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, inciting Muslims to go out and kill British citizens and the citizens of other Western countries. Trump is not inciting Americans to go out and kill Muslims or behead them.

d) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, contemptuously 'laughing in the faces' of the British Government and the British people by mocking the deaths of British soldiers and proclaiming the terrorist scum behind 911 and other atrocities as heroes whilst they were LIVING here enjoying the freedoms and Social Security benefits w afforded them . Trump has done nothing similar or said anything even as remotely as offensive as these disgusting bastards, and Trump has not lived here or sponged off the British taxpayer whilst uttering his particular brand of xenophobia.

e) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have, and still do, scream their detestation of the British and Britain. Trump has not.

The points which I and certain others were raising was; that the hysterical clamour for Trump's head by certain 'factions', is far in excess of any reaction to these Islamic Hate Preachers racist, xenophobic, callous and murderous rantings, and there was NO petition of any kind to ban these bastards from our shores.

Trump is NOT the issue - the capital making by opportunist sinister factions who are anti-Democracy, anti-British, anti-Western, is the issue.

Trump is NOT a threat to the UK - UK Hating Islamic Preachers and Muslim radicalisers who are or have been resident here ARE a threat.

You cry about 'The Far Right' on these forums and complain that anyone against Trump is called by some; anti-patriotic or worse, but the sword swings both ways, and those of us who do nothing more than defend Trump's right to say what he said in his OWN country, are called racists, xenophobic or worse.

Excellent post

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

a) No one in their right mind is claiming that what Trump is saying is RIGHT. We have all condemned it as xenophobic, ludicrous and unworkable in one set of terms or another.

A: Speak for yourself.

b) What most of us are saying and defending, is Trump's RIGHT to say what he has said under the laws of Free Speech in his OWN Country.

A: I agree 100%

c) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, inciting Muslims to go out and kill British citizens and the citizens of other Western countries. Trump is not inciting Americans to go out and kill Muslims or behead them.

A: 1000% true!

d) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, contemptuously 'laughing in the faces' of the British Government and the British people by mocking the deaths of British soldiers and proclaiming the terrorist scum behind 911 and other atrocities as heroes whilst they were LIVING here enjoying the freedoms and Social Security benefits w afforded them . Trump has done nothing similar or said anything even as remotely as offensive as these disgusting bastards, and Trump has not lived here or sponged off the British taxpayer whilst uttering his particular brand of xenophobia.

A: 1000% honest and true!

e) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have, and still do, scream their detestation of the British and Britain. Trump has not.

A: So so very true!

The points which I and certain others were raising was; that the hysterical clamour for Trump's head by certain 'factions', is far in excess of any reaction to these Islamic Hate Preachers racist, xenophobic, callous and murderous rantings, and there was NO petition of any kind to ban these bastards from our shores.

A: Amazingly honest and true!

Trump is NOT the issue - the capital making by opportunist sinister factions who are anti-Democracy, anti-British, anti-Western, is the issue.

A: YES YES and YES 100%

Trump is NOT a threat to the UK - UK Hating Islamic Preachers and Muslim radicalisers who are or have been resident here ARE a threat.

A: Yes 1 billion %

You cry about 'The Far Right' on these forums and complain that anyone against Trump is called by some; anti-patriotic or worse, but the sword swings both ways, and those of us who do nothing more than defend Trump's right to say what he said in his OWN country, are called racists, xenophobic or worse.

A: The real online forum terrorist supporters /sympathisers are also a problem for defending murderers who simply want to blow us all up in the name of Allah.
Anyone defending those kinds of people to me is a major problem in the 21st century.

[Mystic Mock]

I feel that Trump should be allowed to say what he wants as long as it's not insighting violence on another Politician (Sarah Palin I'm thinking of you) and anything else equally as ridiculous.

However that doesn't mean that I agree with what his saying as tbh I don't, it's scaremongering of the worst kind and if he gets into office I will be scared about what will happen to the UK because wherever America goes the UK follows.

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

[user104658]

Know what's really, REALLY bothering me about the whole Trump thing, the more of these videos I watch?

This is a very rich and successful man. And yet, if you watch him speak for a couple of minutes, it becomes abundantly clear that the man is an idiot. Not because of his opinions and views, although those are also idiotic, but just... listen to him. He is stupid. He is not an intelligent man.

And yet his bank accounts are overflowing.

Where the **** am I going wrong in life?

[Johnnyuk123]

Speaking honestly and openly about difficult issues is to be commended.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Know what's really, REALLY bothering me about the whole Trump thing, the more of these videos I watch?

This is a very rich and successful man. And yet, if you watch him speak for a couple of minutes, it becomes abundantly clear that the man is an idiot. Not because of his opinions and views, although those are also idiotic, but just... listen to him. He is stupid. He is not an intelligent man.

And yet his bank accounts are overflowing.

Where the **** am I going wrong in life?

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Speaking honestly and openly about difficult issues is to be commended.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

Republicans are very good at stopping things from happening - Ask Obama.

[arista]

Trump has had Long interviews on every USA News Station
He polls went up again.


Also he now calls it a Temp . Ban


Ref:Media Buzz live

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Know what's really, REALLY bothering me about the whole Trump thing, the more of these videos I watch?

This is a very rich and successful man. And yet, if you watch him speak for a couple of minutes, it becomes abundantly clear that the man is an idiot. Not because of his opinions and views, although those are also idiotic, but just... listen to him. He is stupid. He is not an intelligent man.

And yet his bank accounts are overflowing.

Where the **** am I going wrong in life?

too judgemental perhaps

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

too judgemental perhaps

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

too judgemental perhaps

I take your point, though I'd phrase it as "too unwilling to lower my standards".

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by arista

Trump has had Long interviews on every USA News Station
He polls went up again.


Also he now calls it a Temp . Ban


Ref:Media Buzz live

Initially Donalds remarks were met with scorn. Days later what he said is sinking in and people are now rightly agreeing with him. He's not suggesting blowing anyone up, he is simply trying too protect American citizens. America has responded to his words which is why his ratings have gone up. Good on him i say for being honest and speaking out.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Initially Donalds remarks were met with scorn. Days later what he said is sinking in and people are now rightly agreeing with him. He's not suggesting blowing anyone up, he is simply trying too protect American citizens. America has responded to his words which is why his ratings have gone up. Good on him i say for being honest and speaking out.

His remarks are still met with scorn.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

His remarks are still met with scorn.

They are yet still Americans love the guy.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

They are yet still Americans love the guy.

Do they? I'll agree if he wins the presidency but I'm sure he wont.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do they? I'll agree if he wins the presidency but I'm sure he wont.

Yes they do.

[Northern Monkey]

There is no way that Trump will be President.He's gone too far.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

They are yet still Americans love the guy.

By "Americans" I think you mean "Rednecks"... thankfully, there are plenty of other Americans to counter that sort of thinking

[the truth]

our over reaction and taking his words a bit out of context too (this was a temporary suggestion until their government understands the situation) has made us look 1000 times more idiotic than trump..and he European open borders policy looks frankly insane

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by the truth

our over reaction and taking his words a bit out of context too (this was a temporary suggestion until their government understands the situation) has made us look 1000 times more idiotic than trump..and he European open borders policy looks frankly insane

Well said Truth, though your truth will fall largely on self-deaf ears I'm afraid.