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Heterophobia does exist. Is it an equivalent or as prevalent an issue as homophobia - no absolutely not, not even close.

Really, everyone needs to get off their high horse and agree on the principle that any form of persecution or prejudice is unwelcome in 2016 whatever name it is given
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Straight people are regularly turned away from bars in the Village in Manchester on the basis of their sexuality. I guess that could be deemed as discrimination as no bar would be able to be "straights" only in the rest of Manchester (quite rightly so).
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Ireland voted Yes to gay marriage by a large margin so don't lump us into the homophobic category, tyvm
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Oops, I assumed he was. Didn't expect a gay person to honestly think heterophbia existed..

I pose my question to the OP then - when in the last 12 months have you been discriminated against in the last 12 months?
Maybe you ought to look back at the attacks I get all the time on here if you want proof. If not then Perez left plenty of clues out there and other examples would be open to a differential interpretation to the subject which ultimately could open other cans of worms, so better left alone.
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I can understand both sides but Hetrophobia does exist yes its nowhere near as big as Homo/Transphobia it is all wrong and nobody should be made to feel horrible for what sexuality they are.
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Ireland voted Yes to gay marriage by a large margin so don't lump us into the homophobic category, tyvm
The vote was subscribed to by mostly the gay community and the younger element. The old silent majority didn't see the need to oppose it as it was bound to happen one day and it made no difference to their lives anyway. Sometimes not arguing the indefensible is better than arguing for no reason.

If your point is that the older majority agreed with gay marriage, you are sadly wrong. It was a vote designed to win from the get go because it gave no platform for debate or motions against it mainly because to argue such things would be viewed as politically incorrect and some people rather not get into arguments especially when old and feeble.
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How do you know? you don't live here. I've spoken to plenty of older people who had no problem with gay marriage, in fact in the Polls leading up to the vote the majority of over 50s were in favour, not as big a majority as younger people but still a majority
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Oops, I assumed he was. Didn't expect a gay person to honestly think heterophbia existed..

I pose my question to the OP then - when in the last 12 months have you been discriminated against in the last 12 months?
To be fair to Adam, I think that heterophobia technically exists, in the sense that anyone can have a phobia of anything. It's just not something that needs to be taken seriously imo because, well like most people have said, it's not something that impacts people or society in any harmful way, whereas homophobia does. (Don't want to speak for you Adam, but I assume that's what you were saying?)
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To be fair to Adam, I think that heterophobia technically exists, in the sense that anyone can have a phobia of anything. It's just not something that needs to be taken seriously imo because, well like most people have said, it's not something that impacts people or society in any harmful way, whereas homophobia does. (Don't want to speak for you Adam, but I assume that's what you were saying?)
As I've said above it does exists yet it's not as major problem as homophobia but nobody should be attacked for who they do or don't like
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Can someone in support of hetrophobia existing actually give an example of how heterosexual people have every been marginalised or discriminated against? Other than "oh I don't like gays kissing"... I'll wait.
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Anybody can face prejudice, personally I feel claiming an 'ism' without the historical aspect unacceptable.
I'd agree with this tbh. I think there can be some resentment towards straight people from the gay community due to the fact that straight people are simply more privileged in this world. To call it Heterophobia is silly though as, like you said, there's no historical aspects or contexts. Straight people have never suffered injustices for being straight, they've never had to deal with discrimination on the grounds of their sexuality, they've never had their rights infringed because they are straight.

It's always going to be an emotionally charged topic because Homophobia is a real and present problem whilst Heterophobia is a concept that doesn't really apply to the real world.
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Can someone in support of hetrophobia existing actually give an example of how heterosexual people have every been marginalised or discriminated against? Other than "oh I don't like gays kissing"... I'll wait.
I've seen a Gay Guy come on to a straight guy and when he is turned down calls the straight guy homophobic for not wanting to **** him surely that's Hetrophobic?
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I don't care what it's called.everyone to their own but personally two guys kissing or women is not something I want to see or would enjoy,it's just a matter of ones personal taste,it's not to mine,but others can get on with it,it doesn't bother me at all.
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I'd agree with this tbh. I think there can be some resentment towards straight people from the gay community due to the fact that straight people are simply more privileged in this world. To call it Heterophobia is silly though as, like you said, there's no historical aspects or contexts. Straight people have never suffered injustices for being straight, they've never had to deal with discrimination on the grounds of their sexuality, they've never had their rights infringed because they are straight.



It's always going to be an emotionally charged topic because Homophobia is a real and present problem whilst Heterophobia is a concept that doesn't really apply to the real world.

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I don't care what it's called.everyone to their own but personally two guys kissing or women is not something I want to see or would enjoy,it's just a matter of ones personal taste,it's not to mine,but others can get on with it,it doesn't bother me at all.
I understand this me personally I hate all types of kissing/holding hands in public but I just look the other way its is their business and we don't have to like it as long as we don't make them feel uncomfortable its all fine
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