[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

People living in a different "generation" doesn't matter they need to move out of there olden ways.

Or maybe youngsters need to respect elders views, cuts both ways or does the world exist on the present only and discounts the pasts history. let me remind you that the present is built on the past and what we did gave you a platform to live on.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or maybe youngsters need to respect elders views, cuts both ways or does the world exist on the present only and discounts the pasts history. let me remind you that the present is built on the past and what we did gave you a platform to live on.

Totally agree with this

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Totally agree with this

Im glad you do chuff but obviously someone does not, I got infracted. That's a blatant abuse of power and now will probably get a ban. I didn't invite Niamphs comments, she came in and insulted me now I get infracted. Delete this post if you want but everyone knows how this site is run now. Goodbye

[Margarine.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Im glad you do chuff but obviously someone does not, I got infracted. That's a blatant abuse of power and now will probably get a ban. I didn't invite Niamphs comments, she came in and insulted me now I get infracted. Delete this post if you want but everyone knows how this site is run now. Goodbye

I'm sure that there has been no abuse of power here at all.

Your infraction isn't because you offered a differing opinion, it's most likely because of the way you have conducted yourself whilst delivering that opinion.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Im glad you do chuff but obviously someone does not, I got infracted. That's a blatant abuse of power and now will probably get a ban. I didn't invite Niamphs comments, she came in and insulted me now I get infracted. Delete this post if you want but everyone knows how this site is run now. Goodbye

We haven't abused anything and you know that, it's not our fault that you are incapable of accepting blame for your own actions.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We haven't abused anything and you know that, it's not our fault that you are incapable of accepting blame for your own actions.

If standing up for what I believe and defending my principles is wrong, then shoot me but all of my defences where in response to vitriolic rhetoric that went un noticed. I will not be painted into a corner as a homophobe just as much as you wont be regarded as a bad person. My punishment was uncalled for in the face of the barrage of hidden digs \I was getting. \the difference here \Dezzy is I am old school and cant fight dirty, \I say whats on my mind. No I am going off line now and wont be c]back till the series starts. hopefully it will be a pleasant one.

[arista]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If standing up for what I believe and defending my principles is wrong,then shoot me but all of my defences where in response to vitriolic rhetoric that went un noticed. I will not be painted into a corner as a homophobe just as much as you wont be regarded as a bad person. My punishment was uncalled for in the face of the barrage of hidden digs \I was getting. \the difference here \Dezzy is I am old school and cant fight dirty, \I say whats on my mind. No I am going off line now and wont be c]back till the series starts. hopefully it will be a pleasant one.

Yes In WW3
I will have you up the back helping Army Robots get ready
to assist the youngers on the Front line.


Sorry to "Cherry Pick" your thread
I can not Stop myself

[billy123]

It does quite amuse me that some young people haven't got the awareness to realise that before they know it some little brat will be cringing at the things they say and do and calling them outdated.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or maybe youngsters need to respect elders views, cuts both ways or does the world exist on the present only and discounts the pasts history. let me remind you that the present is built on the past and what we did gave you a platform to live on.

I think it's important to remember the past so that we do not repeat the MANY mistakes of the previous generation.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or maybe youngsters need to respect elders views, cuts both ways or does the world exist on the present only and discounts the pasts history. let me remind you that the present is built on the past and what we did gave you a platform to live on.

Ah yes, thank you so much for growing up during the time of a flourishing welfare state and no university fees and then getting rid of most of it by the time it's our generation's chance. But don't worry you guys have your pensions never mind us

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

People living in a different "generation" doesn't matter they need to move out of there olden ways.

As I said earlier in the thread, these people won't be around for much longer. It's a generational thing, with every passing one things will become more tolerant and open minded and that can only be a good thing

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think it's important to remember the past so that we do not repeat the MANY mistakes of the previous generation.

Quite right.

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Ah yes, thank you so much for growing up during the time of a flourishing welfare state and no university fees and then getting rid of most of it by the time it's our generation's chance. But don't worry you guys have your pensions never mind us

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Ah yes, thank you so much for growing up during the time of a flourishing welfare state and no university fees and then getting rid of most of it by the time it's our generation's chance. But don't worry you guys have your pensions never mind us

I believe Sam worked for his pension,the world does not owe anyone a living,if you want something get out there and work for it as people did in Sams day,I am sure you have it much easier now tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I believe Sam worked for his pension,the world does not owe anyone a living,if you want something get out there and work for it as people did in Sams day,I am sure you have it much easier now tbh.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I believe Sam worked for his pension,the world does not owe anyone a living,if you want something get out there and work for it as people did in Sams day,I am sure you have it much easier now tbh.

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

[Margarine.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

I'm training to be a paramedic and by the time I retire, at an age that God only knows, I will probably have a piss poor pension

But obviously, I can't complain because life is so much easier for me than it would have been 30 years ago

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Margarine.

I'm training to be a paramedic and by the time I retire, at an age that God only knows, I will probably have a piss poor pension

But obviously, I can't complain because life is so much easier for me than it would have been 30 years ago

You have iPad's and Netflix and the internet and Candy Crush and weren't caned at school, your life is so easy work for your ****ing living you scrounger!!!!!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You have iPad's and Netflix and the internet and Candy Crush and weren't caned at school, your life is so easy work for your ****ing living you scrounger!!!!!!

Damn right and I'll bet margarine will make a great paramedic he/she is at least doing something worthwhile, life is what we make it,you get out of it what you put in.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

Does your mother wash your clothes in a wash house in a dolly tub,do you have to go outside to the toilet,do you have coats on the bed to keep you warm,do you bath in a tin bath by the fireside,do you have limited food stuffs? answer ,NO,(no offence meant by those things Sam,lol) You have far more today than you've ever had, nothing is impossible if you really want it. but you have to help yourself a little sometimes,yes it might be a struggle but perseverance will get you far.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Does your mother wash your clothes in a wash house in a dolly tub,do you have to go outside to the toilet,do you have coats on the bed to keep you warm,do you bath in a tin bath by the fireside,do you have limited food stuffs? answer ,NO,(no offence meant by those things Sam,lol) You have far more today than you've ever had, nothing is impossible if you really want it. but you have to help yourself a little sometimes,yes it might be a struggle but perseverance will get you far.

Well I don't have to do any of that, but struggling to heat one's home and having limited food are still very much a reality for many people today. Difference is, just because I'm lucky enough that it doesn't affect me personally it doesn't mean I don't care.

Just because we've had some technological advances and new definitions of poverty have come to fruition, it doesn't mean that tired rhetoric and meritocratic fallacies about 'putting the work in' and 'anything is achievable' can solve some deep rooted societal problems. Some people are seriously lacking in opportunity for reasons beyond their control, and unless they are provided with one, they are destined for a life on the poverty line and unjustified abuse for being a 'scrounger'. Problems need solutions, not sayings.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Not all middle aged people work either

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Maybe the previous generation should have raised this one better then

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. I would suggest reading less of the Sun, Express and the Mail and more of the very real facts and figures that depict a severe lack of opportunities for many underprivileged people (not all of them young), and an abundance of exploitation and systematic abuse they face as a result.

Originally Posted by Firewire

Not all middle aged people work either

Young people are the root of all evil though! Scum!!!!!

Originally Posted by Smithy

Maybe the previous generation should have raised this one better then

ooOOooooOoHhHhhhhh you went there

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

Of course they do,no one is disputing that ,but c'mon there are a certain section that do NOT want to work or better themselves , they prefer life on benefits,some even admit that, those are the people I am talking about.