[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Same sex parents won't effect the child either

Load of rubbish

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Load of rubbish

How will they effect the child then?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Load of rubbish

How? why is it any different.. because they are gay/lesbian? who imo should be treated the same as straight because everyone is equal.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Even after it was explained that no one was linking gay couples to paedophilia.

May as well delete the whole thread then if we cant discuss all aspects of winstons comments.

No need to delete the whole thread I'm sure most are capable of taking part in debates without being offensive at the same time.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Josy

No need to delete the whole thread I'm sure most are capable of taking part in debates without being offensive at the same time.

Offence is taken, not given.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Offence is taken, not given.

Oh it's given plenty by some.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Josy

No need to delete the whole thread I'm sure most are capable of taking part in debates without being offensive at the same time.

No one was being offensive last night but look what happened.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LukeB

A child being brought up by a single parent doesn't mean anything, I know loads who have brought up by a single parent and they have the same view as people who have two parents.

So you are saying they would have been exactly the same with a mum and dad.I disagree,Upbringing undoubtedly has an impact on adulthood.Nurture plays a role just as nature does.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The fact that it fails once is enough for me to find it far more of an important subject to discuss than anything else mentioned in this thread. But each to their own.

Oops. That first line was meant to say 'opposite sex couples'.
I think you are just looking for something, anything, to beat gay couples wanting to adopt with. IMO.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No one was being offensive last night but look what happened.

They were though.

You asked why the posts were deleted and you were answered by 2 of us so can you stop derailing the thread and stick to the original discussion now.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So you are saying they would have been exactly the same with a mum and dad.I disagree,Upbringing undoubtedly has an impact on adulthood.Nurture plays a role just as nature does.

Of course it would have an impact- not a negative one though...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How will they effect the child then?

You've got children, you really should know the answer

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So you are saying they would have been exactly the same with a mum and dad.I disagree,Upbringing undoubtedly has an impact on adulthood.Nurture plays a role just as nature does.

..of course, but why would it bring any negative qualities in parenting from a same sex couple, that couldn't be there in a male/female parenting situation ..?...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So you are saying they would have been exactly the same with a mum and dad.I disagree,Upbringing undoubtedly has an impact on adulthood.Nurture plays a role just as nature does.

Makes an impact but not an negative one

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You've got children, you really should know the answer

Yes I have 2 very well adjusted open minded children who have no issue what so ever with homosexuality. I believe, as a mother that all kids need is love, stability and attention from their parent/s

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Josy

They were though.

You asked why the posts were deleted and you were answered by 2 of us so can you stop derailing the thread and stick to the original discussion now.

Fair enough, I would like proof of someone being offensive though if you're going to toss that accusation about.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Oh it's given plenty by some.

Nope, it is only ever taken, by definition. It is something the reader does, not the publisher.

My two posts that were removed were simply links to news outlets. If people take offence at that then they have a problem.

Will you be removing anything that anyone is offended by?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It is the same principal in all walks of life.Strengths and weaknesses.

Well no, I meant strong as in character you took it to mean physical displays of brute strength for some reason.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I have 2 very well adjusted open minded children who have no issue what so ever with homosexuality. I believe, as a mother that all kids need is love, stability and attention from their parent/s

[Vicky.]

The only way I can see having same sex parents as affecting the child is because the child will be more of a target for bullying. I believe this has been discussed on here before too.

I do not think same sex adoption should not happen because of this, I mean kids are bullied for all sorts of reasons anyway. Plus once its more common for gay couples to have kids, it will be less of an 'issue'. But I am just pointing out the only way I can see for it to affect a child. Unless there is more I am missing?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The only way I can see having same sex parents as affecting the child is because the child will be more of a target for bullying. I believe this has been discussed on here before too.

I do not think same sex adoption should not happen because of this, I mean kids are bullied for all sorts of reasons anyway. Plus once its more common for gay couples to have kids, it will be less of an 'issue'. But I am just pointing out the only way I can see for it to affect a child. Unless there is more I am missing?

And if it's a baby that's adopted it won't be able to drink its mother's breast milk but that's about it

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You've got children, you really should know the answer

Well clearly Niamh doesn't, and neither do the rest of us... so why don't you back up your claims with some actual argument rather than spouting ignorance and ad hominem attacks.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Nope, it is only ever taken, by definition. It is something the reader does, not the publisher.

My two posts that were removed were simply links to news outlets. If people take offence at that then they have a problem.

Will you be removing anything that anyone is offended by?

I have already explained that yours were not deleted because they were offensive, but because the rest of that line of conversation had been deleted so in context of the thread, the links would make no sense and it would look like you randomly posted links about paedophiles for no reason?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I have 2 very well adjusted open minded children who have no issue what so ever with homosexuality. I believe, as a mother that all kids need is love, stability and attention from their parent/s

And I have 4 children all of the same ilk ,but they need me AND their father to have the balanced life they have

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The only way I can see having same sex parents as affecting the child is because the child will be more of a target for bullying. I believe this has been discussed on here before too.

I do not think same sex adoption should not happen because of this, I mean kids are bullied for all sorts of reasons anyway. Plus once its more common for gay couples to have kids, it will be less of an 'issue'. But I am just pointing out the only way I can see for it to affect a child. Unless there is more I am missing?

..indeed, children can be bullied for many reasons regardless of who their parents are and I have never found in our school, any child being specifically bullied because their parents are gay..in some cases, a curiosity has been provoked because children are naturally curious of many things...but that's a good thing, I think because it's an opportunity to explain, different types of families, which they learn about anyway...a child questioning is a good thing and dispels prejudice in their lives...