[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

..they really do, it's a very long process..well adoption in general for any couple is and should be..it's important to asses the right parents/the right child(ren) etc but it's much more intrusive and lengthy for a homosexual couple than it is for heterosexual partnerships and also from my experience, much more so than a single parent adopting...their sexual lives are not intruded on in anything like the same way...I know a gay couple who have recently gone through the process and what they went through...

..children are all different obviously, just like we all are and some will thrive and be best suited to male/female parents, some to single parents and equally, some to homosexual parents..each parenting can have something a child needs, specific to them...and the 'matching' is mutual so the children..(obviously not babies..) choose those gay parents as well, with several meetings...but they're not even introduced in the first place, if it's felt that it's not a parenting situation that would be suitable for that child/those children, their character etc...I have to say as well, again only my own personal experience of maybe 40/50ish foster children at our school through the time that I've been there..?..a very high percentage of them were adoptable and in that sad situation because of biological heterosexual parents, who they suffered child abuse from...either one of, or both parents...

[Ammi]

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...

Two gay men cannot conceive a child. Is there perhaps a reason for that?