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chuff me dizzy · 12-01-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Shame they didn't do this with Jim Davidson

ThriceShy · 12-01-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag

How about they all respect his religious beliefs like we're forced to with religions that are not Christian?

We all know the answer, the PC World doesn't have the same equality for Christianity.

Not just hypocrits but the enemy of the Western democratic World (That's how serious Political Correctness is)

Emma should be sacked on the spot for that interview. Who is she to tell Winston whats right and wrong and dictate what he says?

And then Rylan at the end of interviewing Winston Said "I'm proud to be a gay man" and got a big cheer and clap for that (which says it all) Winston wouldn't have got a cheer and clap if he'd have said he was proud to be a straight man or proud of his Christian beliefs, he would have likely been booed for that.

Being gay doesn't make you a better person no matter what the looney liberal media influences to think it is.

Best post on this topic.

You are absolutely right. People can't be proud to be straight. Imagine if we had a straight pride march. Probably get arrested.

Winston is a Christian man in a Christian country and nobody has the right to tell him he shouldn't be allowed his views.

Kazanne · 12-01-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag

How about they all respect his religious beliefs like we're forced to with religions that are not Christian?

We all know the answer, the PC World doesn't have the same equality for Christianity.

Not just hypocrits but the enemy of the Western democratic World (That's how serious Political Correctness is)

Emma should be sacked on the spot for that interview. Who is she to tell Winston whats right and wrong and dictate what he says?

And then Rylan at the end of interviewing Winston Said "I'm proud to be a gay man" and got a big cheer and clap for that (which says it all) Winston wouldn't have got a cheer and clap if he'd have said he was proud to be a straight man or proud of his Christian beliefs, he would have likely been booed for that.

Being gay doesn't make you a better person no matter what the looney liberal media influences to think it is.

I read something online that had the line 'PC is more dangerous than any Isis cult', I had to stop and think about that,and I can see how that conclusion was reached,I wish I had kept the article now, I do think none of us have the right to tell others what to think or say, whatever religious or persuasion we are .

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Best post on this topic.

You are absolutely right. People can't be proud to be straight. Imagine if we had a straight pride march. Probably get arrested.

Winston is a Christian man in a Christian country and nobody has the right to tell him he shouldn't be allowed his views.

They have every right to challenge his views if they discriminate though

ThriceShy · 12-01-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

They have every right to challenge his views if they discriminate though

His views are as valid as theirs. Are you claiming some opinions are more valid than others? Who gets to decide that? You?

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

His views are as valid as theirs. Are you claiming some opinions are more valid than others? Who gets to decide that? You?

If an opinion or view discriminates against people then yes. No one has the right to be derogatory to a minority. The sooner you realise that the better to be honest.

jet · 12-01-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag

How about they all respect his religious beliefs like we're forced to with religions that are not Christian?

We all know the answer, the PC World doesn't have the same equality for Christianity.

Not just hypocrits but the enemy of the Western democratic World (That's how serious Political Correctness is)

Emma should be sacked on the spot for that interview. Who is she to tell Winston whats right and wrong and dictate what he says?

And then Rylan at the end of interviewing Winston Said "I'm proud to be a gay man" and got a big cheer and clap for that (which says it all) Winston wouldn't have got a cheer and clap if he'd have said he was proud to be a straight man or proud of his Christian beliefs, he would have likely been booed for that.

Being gay doesn't make you a better person no matter what the looney liberal media influences to think it is.

The problem for me is that people pick and choose which religious beliefs to have, when really all they are doing is justifying their own prejudices.

How often do you hear Christians going on about all the other things forbidden in the Bible eg
Adultery
Working on the Sabbath
Lying
Stealing
Eating food containing fat or blood
Maturbation
Pre Marital sex
Sleeping with a woman who is mentruating
Divorce (Mark 10:11–12:
“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.)
1 Corinthians 7:10–11
“To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.”
A woman speaking in church
1 Corinthians 14:34
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.”

Or for that matter, eating leavened bread, getting tattoos or wearing clothes of two materials. All these, and hundreds of other things are forbidden in the Bible, and they are nowadays cast aside to suit the individuals own purposes.

If someone is adamant that they are against homosexuality purely for religious reasons and only heeding the word of God, then they should actually read their Bibles properly and stop committing sins right left and centre and then condemning others for their 'sins'.

Niamh. · 12-01-2016, 05:20 PM

The homosexual sin seems to be the one all these Christians like to latch on to most of all for some reason

ThriceShy · 12-01-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

If an opinion or view discriminates against people then yes. No one has the right to be derogatory to a minority. The sooner you realise that the better to be honest.

Says who? Is there a law that says this?

You realise that 20 million people are against gay adoption. Are they all not entitled to that view?

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Says who? Is there a law that says this?

You realise that 20 million people are against gay adoption. Are they all not entitled to that view?

Says part of the minority that gets discriminated against by the likes of you and Winston and the 20 million morons who are the same.

There isn't any way you can talk Winston or yourself out of having these extremely Jurassic views.

ThriceShy · 12-01-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Says part of the minority that gets discriminated against by the likes of you and Winston and the 20 million morons who are the same.

There isn't any way you can talk Winston or yourself out of having these extremely Jurassic views.

But those 20 million are a minority. By your own rules you mustn't say anything derogatory about them.

Livia · 12-01-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Says who? Is there a law that says this?

You realise that 20 million people are against gay adoption. Are they all not entitled to that view?

Since you ask...

Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights states:

Freedom of expression
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

Winston's opinion that gay adoption is tantamount to child abuse clearly breaches the part I've highlighted above. No one's stopping him having his opinion, but voicing it on TV is quite another thing.

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But those 20 million are a minority. By your own rules you mustn't say anything derogatory about them.

Twist and turn it however you want. You know I'm right otherwise you wouldn't be dissecting and twisting everything I say to suit your agenda. All I know is that there are 20 million homophobic morons that need to love themselves and stop worrying they are going to catch gay.

Parmy · 12-01-2016, 05:46 PM

why do gay couples go through more stringent testing for adoption than straight couples?

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

why do gay couples go through more stringent testing for adoption than straight couples?

Are you trying to make some kind of point to this?

Parmy · 12-01-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Are you trying to make some kind of point to this?

no, i really want to know.

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Since you ask...

Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights states:

Freedom of expression
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

Winston's opinion that gay adoption is tantamount to child abuse clearly breaches the part I've highlighted above. No one's stopping him having his opinion, but voicing it on TV is quite another thing.

I think this is one of the greatest posts I have ever laid my gay eyes on

Livia · 12-01-2016, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

I think this is one of the greatest posts I have ever laid my gay eyes on

Wait till you get the bill...

Glenn. · 12-01-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Wait till you get the bill...

I hope it comes with complimentary anal beads

sampvt · 12-01-2016, 05:55 PM

Ive just finished writing a reasonably understandable and neutral view to this thread then I thought, why ???? its only gonna get slated so f..k it, lm gonna let you all tear each others eyes out over nothing.