[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

also you can't criticise her by saying 'she's a mess' because we're talking about a TV show not real life and being a mess in a TV show isn't...well...something to criticise

I can do what I like unless you think it breaks some rule?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I'll remind you. You claimed that you would "admit defeat" if anyone posted examples of Jim Davidson being actually racist towards people before he entered. As soon as said examples were posted you fled the thread and never returned. You were very vocal about how terrible winston was and how it was right he left because of his views.

And that was about an entertainment show.

So why exactly can't I criticise Gemma and her pattern of self destructive behaviour?

Unless you can find some posts to remind me that I said it was right he left cause of his views then I'm not sure whether I can believe that part, really doesn't sound like something I would say and if I did than I retract it because they signed him for the controversy, Nancy was dull, so he should have stayed. That sounds more like something I would say regardless of what I thought of the comments.

The other part I do remember though and rather than 'fled the thread' it was more likely I just didn't come on here for several days? As has been the case this series with me having to catch on several episodes in one go. Feel free to tell me of said examples now though...I'm here.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I can do what I like unless you think it breaks some rule?

Yes it breaks the rule of not wilfully destroying an entertainment programme that you claim to be a fan of

Rule #6: Thou shall not willingly seek to evict one who is contributing to the programme

[jet]

I don't give a monkeys if Gemma is or isn't spoiled. She's freaking hilarious, pretty harmless and is working her ass off in there to give us good value....why do you think the producers keep making sure she goes back in when she walks? They know they need her for the viewing figures. She's now in my top 3. She's a brilliant HM.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't give a monkeys if Gemma is or isn't spoiled. She's freaking hilarious, pretty harmless and is working her ass off in there to give us good value....why do you think the producers keep making sure she goes back in when she walks? They know they need her for the viewing figures. She's now in my top 3. She's a brilliant HM.

Someone with sense spread that gospel truth

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Someone with sense spread that gospel truth

Thanks, I try!

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Maxy

She was so selfish and then after she had the blow dry she brushed it all out, it's awful anyway, she needs to get her roots done.

and she kept saying 'its clean now, I cant live with dirty hair'. well get ya bloody mop washed then you lazy bitch. SELFISH doesnt come close

[ThriceShy]

And why do the housemates put up with it. They cart stuff around for her like she is royalty.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

What exactly did Gemma contribute to the jungle, after ITV had flown her out there and put her up in a 5 star hotel?

Absolutely sod all is the answer.

Gemma Collins, IMO, has a severe personality disorder. She should be saved from herself and not pandered to in the way she has been.

I agree with you , she gets so full of herself she can't see what a vile personality she really has , all this 'I've got a big heart' well of course you do its working overtime carting you round , whilst you actually think you are nice. Poor girl needs help from a professional ! and not a fanny surgeon.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Despite the fact she's now said on several occasions 'I'm just making a TV show' okay then, I'm sure you know her in real life to know what she's really like

I think the point is yes clearly shes playing to the cameras, but its become apparent her behaviour is actually affecting peoples emotional states (Daniellas, stephs) and she doesnt give a fig.

If it were purely an act shed be picking on someone like John who also is acting a bit and could take it. But shes manipulating someone (I hate daniella fyi but still) for entertainment.

That to me makes her a pretty nasty person, whether its 'for the cameras' or otherwise

[Razor]

She's a greedy spoilt bitch.

[Maru]

Acting or not, Gemma is not here to make friends with this cast and clearly is self-obsessed... a good natured person does not act like a fool in public just for some money. If she were paid or told to act this way, it still has to be part of her character to act this way.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Maru

Acting or not, Gemma is not here to make friends with this cast and clearly is self-obsessed... a good natured person does not act like a fool in public just for some money. If she were paid or told to act this way, it still has to be part of her character to act this way.

Precisely shes not a good enough actress for anyone to believe in their right mind that shes that awful in character and somehow a good person normally.

All the Towie type reality stars are just exaggerated versions of themselves. Gemma is a classic example of the types of tv 'stars' who buy into their own hype. Shes vile.

[jennyjuniper]

Collins is everything I despise in people.
Selfish
Lazy
Egotistical
Talentless
Cruel
Materialistiic.

[Ammi]

..but then the other housemates wouldn't know what's important in life either if they thought that having cold water for one day was an awful thing ...they did say that it wasn't important and that she should have her blowdry and wouldn't anyone want TO KEEP GEMMA HAPPY, YOU WOULDN'T LIKE WHEN SHE'S ANGRY...anyway, I'm being flippant I guess because I honestly think it was done on purpose ..I'm going to go with the theory of her being told things to persuade her to return to the house/that her selfishness and me, me, me etc is getting her much attention and airtime and no publicity is bad publicity, baby..it's showbiz....

[Razor]

She's self centred, greedy and up herself.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's called an act. A self-admitted act for the purposes of an entertainment programme. And an act that you, several other viewers and the housemates are falling for

More power to GC

Oh yeah I'm not intelligent enough to get what Gemma Collins is up to,come on she's not exactly a rocket scientist,that's pretty insulting to make out I'm not as intelligent as Gemma Collins.Normally making out you are a spoiled b i * * h would turn people against you unless you are funny like Nikki Graham.

Gemma isn't funny so if her being spo i * e * b i t * h makes her liked then what does that say about BB ?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Oh yeah I'm not intelligent enough to get what Gemma Collins is up to,come on she's not exactly a rocket scientist,that's pretty insulting to make out I'm not as intelligent as Gemma Collins.Normally making out you are a spoiled b i * * h would turn people against you unless you are funny like Nikki Graham.

Gemma isn't funny so if her being spo i * e * b i t * h makes her liked then what does that say about BB ?

Maybe not to you but she cracks me up.

[waterhog]

she has her head up her own ??? and is unaware of her surroundings. there is only 2 things in her life gemma and colins.


so sad.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Jack_

also you can't criticise her by saying 'she's a mess' because we're talking about a TV show not real life and being a mess in a TV show isn't...well...something to criticise

Why not?

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't give a monkeys if Gemma is or isn't spoiled. She's freaking hilarious, pretty harmless and is working her ass off in there to give us good value....why do you think the producers keep making sure she goes back in when she walks? They know they need her for the viewing figures. She's now in my top 3. She's a brilliant HM.

TYour concept of someone 'working their ass off' is very different from mine.Collins isn't 'working', just being her s... stirring bone idle self.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Despite the fact she's now said on several occasions 'I'm just making a TV show' okay then, I'm sure you know her in real life to know what she's really like

Yes she does keep saying that shes only doing it for tv, but for me she says a bit to often, like shes trying just a bit to hard to convince everyone. Anyway I doubt that she has the ability to keep up an act for that long. I think we are seeing the real Gemma.

[arista]

Get Gemma - The Beach Whale OUT fast

[Tom4784]

I don't understand why anyone is taking her seriously, making her out to be the devil when she's just acting up for the cameras.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I already answered this yesterday but you conveniently ignored it. Looking back on who else participated in that series she was most definitely the star of it. Her ridiculous meltdowns and the 'I might just become Bear Grylls, you never know' were particular highlights

Cant agree with you there Jack. I know a few people who were fans of hers really went off her that she couldn't stand being in there and didn't even give it a chance. She is very needy and craving attention. I don't know why BB booked her but no matter how much people say she is entertaining she is a lazy selfish cow who doesn't give a sh it about anyone