[Pete.]

CBB11 = BB1
CBB12 = BB2
CBB13 = BB3
CBB14 = BB4
CBB15 = BB5
CBB16 = BB6
CBB17 = BB7

[Firewire]

what is nine

[MB.]

Not really

[Shaun]

well CBB16 was trash so

[LukeB]

BB5 was amazing... CBB15 wasn't

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

well CBB16 was trash so

wait what

[Jason.]

Not really. BB7 was a brilliant series, whereas CBB17 is weak.

[MB.]

CBB17 isn't weak and BB7 wasn't a brilliant series

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

CBB17 isn't weak and BB7 wasn't a brilliant series

No. and no.

[MB.]

Yes and yes

[Braden]

Originally Posted by MB.

Not really

[2].

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

No. and no.

Originally Posted by MB.

Yes and yes

More and More (on iTunes)

[Jason.]

BB13 = BB6
BB14 = BB7
BB15/16 (mostly 16 tbh) = BB8

I think this is quite accurate. Obviously the C4 ones are better, but those are the C5 equivalents to the C4 ones. BB15/16 are awful whereas BB8 was just average, but they're similar because of the abysmal production and all the pointless twists they had in order to boost ratings (BB16) and replicate the success of BB7 (BB15 trying to replicate the success of Secrets and Lies)

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

BB15/16 (mostly 16 tbh) = BB8

No no no BB8 was a good series.

I don't think you can compare the towie/apprentice style seasons to C4

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No no no BB8 was a good series.

I don't think you can compare the towie seasons to C4

Literally every C5 series is cotton-candy TOWIE so idg that logic.

That's why I said the C4 ones are obviously better and that 15/16 were awful whilst 8 was average at best. But in terms of production and feel they're quite similar IMO.

[Firewire]

BB8 is underrated

[Dominic]

Only the Charley half of BB8 is good if we are talking about civilian

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

sorry hon no

[Jason.]

BB8 was average imo. I don't think it's a classic series or anywhere near as good as BB3, 5-7 but it's not the worst either. But you'd be lying if you said the production for that series was actually good as they made a lot of useless decisions which affected the quality of that series.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rose McGowan

sorry hon no

Yo tell ha!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Literally every C5 series is cotton-candy TOWIE so idg that logic.

That's why I said the C4 ones are obviously better and that 15/16 were awful whilst 8 was average at best. But in terms of production and feel they're quite similar IMO.

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

BB11 >>>>> Cancer >>>>>> BB8

[LukeB]

if anything BB11 and BB16 are similar... 4 evictions in one night and a boring final.. Josie and Chloe were the only decent housemates left.

[Dominic]

Justice for Harry and Corin!

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

So in other words, good C5 series = not TOWIE, bad C5 series = TOWIE.

BB8's production consisted of throwing about useless twists in order to garner ratings, hype, and media interest after the significant drop in viewers compared to BB7, like the all-female launch, £100k giveaway, Fake Week (although that one was good), Halfway House, etc. BB16's production was exactly the same, the constant 'Timebombs', 4IN4OUT, Secret Bunker, Legends, Cashbomb - all of which were done to also increase ratings after the worrying drop of viewers compared to what any other C5 BB had.

There's definitely a correlation there. I'm not saying BB8 as a series overall and BB15/16 are THE SAME. But I do think the way BB15/16 (mainly 16) worked out in the end is quite similar to the way BB8 did back in 2007. BB8 was HATED at the time and was seen as a flop - the same way BB16 is being seen now.

Obviously BB8 has aged well in comparison given well...C5 BB.