[Jason.]

BB13 = BB6
BB14 = BB7
BB15/16 (mostly 16 tbh) = BB8

I think this is quite accurate. Obviously the C4 ones are better, but those are the C5 equivalents to the C4 ones. BB15/16 are awful whereas BB8 was just average, but they're similar because of the abysmal production and all the pointless twists they had in order to boost ratings (BB16) and replicate the success of BB7 (BB15 trying to replicate the success of Secrets and Lies)

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

BB15/16 (mostly 16 tbh) = BB8

No no no BB8 was a good series.

I don't think you can compare the towie/apprentice style seasons to C4

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No no no BB8 was a good series.

I don't think you can compare the towie seasons to C4

Literally every C5 series is cotton-candy TOWIE so idg that logic.

That's why I said the C4 ones are obviously better and that 15/16 were awful whilst 8 was average at best. But in terms of production and feel they're quite similar IMO.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Literally every C5 series is cotton-candy TOWIE so idg that logic.

That's why I said the C4 ones are obviously better and that 15/16 were awful whilst 8 was average at best. But in terms of production and feel they're quite similar IMO.

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

BB11 >>>>> Cancer >>>>>> BB8

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Mainly 12,15 and 16. 13/14 wasn't as quite like towie especially 14.. I don't think BB8 production is similar to 15/16 because those were the worst and vile BB8 wasn't no where near it. BB11/BB10 maybe but not BB8.

So in other words, good C5 series = not TOWIE, bad C5 series = TOWIE.

BB8's production consisted of throwing about useless twists in order to garner ratings, hype, and media interest after the significant drop in viewers compared to BB7, like the all-female launch, £100k giveaway, Fake Week (although that one was good), Halfway House, etc. BB16's production was exactly the same, the constant 'Timebombs', 4IN4OUT, Secret Bunker, Legends, Cashbomb - all of which were done to also increase ratings after the worrying drop of viewers compared to what any other C5 BB had.

There's definitely a correlation there. I'm not saying BB8 as a series overall and BB15/16 are THE SAME. But I do think the way BB15/16 (mainly 16) worked out in the end is quite similar to the way BB8 did back in 2007. BB8 was HATED at the time and was seen as a flop - the same way BB16 is being seen now.

Obviously BB8 has aged well in comparison given well...C5 BB.

[Babayaro.]

lmao @ CBB16 being compared to BB6