[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

i think he only spoke out because there have been some nudes leaked

He is still not obliged to say anything publically, take it to the police it's a criminal matter now

[Z]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why do him and that swimmer berk always try and say they are bi when as smithy says it fecking obvious he is one big Gay?

Is it to soften the landing?

There's already an openly gay one in Union J, I'd imagine it's pressure from management so they're still marketable to teen girls; and also fear of backlash. It's always such a coward's way out to say you're bisexual if you're gay, it's demeaning to people who are actually bisexual because of the amount of disbelief and scorn they're met with.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I want to see the nudes

Perch tumblr

[Denver]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Perch tumblr

You got a link?

[Z]

Also @everyone harping on about him not coming out as bisexual - it's what he didn't say that sticks out more than what he did say, he's obviously still not comfortable talking about it and surely only did this because naked pictures of him leaked online and he felt he had to address it. I'd imagine we'll get a more conclusive comment from him by the end of the year when he realises that it's not a big deal and he can label himself if he wants to, his video just came across as 'I've been caught red handed and I don't want to admit it publicly even though I was happy enough to send myself naked to guys online'...

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Z

Also @everyone harping on about him not coming out as bisexual - it's what he didn't say that sticks out more than what he did say, he's obviously still not comfortable talking about it and surely only did this because naked pictures of him leaked online and he felt he had to address it. I'd imagine we'll get a more conclusive comment from him by the end of the year when he realises that it's not a big deal and he can label himself if he wants to, his video just came across as 'I've been caught red handed and I don't want to admit it publicly even though I was happy enough to send myself naked to guys online'...

As a Celebrity still locked in the closet the last thing you would do is send full nudes to guys you don't know

[Z]

Originally Posted by Adam.

As a Celebrity still locked in the closet the last thing you would do is send full nudes to guys you don't know

Honestly it's not a big deal, he's not the first person to send a naked picture of himself and he won't be the last to be caught doing it; it's a shame it happened to him but the main positive is that he can now be himself in public where he obviously felt constricted before, I don't know why he felt he had to try and lie or talk around it in the video when he could have just gotten the point and ceased the endless questioning but perhaps it was management pressure, perhaps it was part of the plan so he can spin some media coverage out of it, or perhaps it was just plain fear. I don't know.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If he truly doesn't t want to be labelled he should keep his mouth shut, it's nobodies business what he does sexually as long as it is with consenting adults, sticks and stones and all that

People always say this but until if and when the day occurs where we don't live in a heteronormative society whereby you are presumed straight unless you say otherwise, it will have to continue. You are right, 'coming out' shouldn't have to a be thing, but it will be until people stop presuming they know people's sexuality without inquiring first

Perhaps a celebrity should just try stepping out in public with someone of the same sex that they're in a relationship with and see how the media reacts. That's how it should be, you just bring home your partner of whatever gender to your parents and they don't make a fuss over it, but unfortunately we've not yet reached that stage.

Originally Posted by Z

Also @everyone harping on about him not coming out as bisexual - it's what he didn't say that sticks out more than what he did say, he's obviously still not comfortable talking about it and surely only did this because naked pictures of him leaked online and he felt he had to address it. I'd imagine we'll get a more conclusive comment from him by the end of the year when he realises that it's not a big deal and he can label himself if he wants to, his video just came across as 'I've been caught red handed and I don't want to admit it publicly even though I was happy enough to send myself naked to guys online'...

The point is that it is no one else's place other than one's own to define their sexuality. You (as in collectively, not you, Z) do not 'know' anything, you are just assuming. And more to the point, even if all of that is the case, it does not take away from the fact that some people do not wish to categorise their sexuality - nor, most of the time, is there any need to - and the media's insistence on point blank ignoring someone's wishes of disliking categorisation only fuels this outdated belief that sexuality has to be placed into certain check boxes, you are either this or that, a ridiculously stupid binary. It must stop.

[Lostie!]

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

Thats 100% Smithys Fault

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Bc he's a raving homo obv

His words
after I asked him to correct his title.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats 100% Smithys Fault

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why do him and that swimmer berk always try and say they are bi when as smithy says it fecking obvious he is one big Gay?

Is it to soften the landing?

Yep. The new trend is ultimate special snowflake status in #6 easy steps:

Step #1 - Come out as not having a label
Step #2 - Come out as pansexual*/ omnisexual/ polysexual
Step #3 - Come out as genderfluid/ gender fluid/ agender etc (spout some stuff about non binary gender bla bla)
Step #4 - Come out as bisexual
Step #5 - Come out as homoflexible
Step #6 - Come out as gay

Now doubt all the 17 year old vegan green hair piereced nosed poor tatood tumblr lasses will pur adoringly and condemn all of us who yawn and say " we already knew you were gay".by calling you cishet scum etc

* Now that Miley Cirus has ended her rebellious phase and is back with boyfriend Liam Hemsworth she will quietly drop her pansexual label won't she!!?!

[Jack_]

oh god here we go

Let's just close the thread here shall we, I think we all know the news now...

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People always say this but until if and when the day occurs where we don't live in a heteronormative society whereby you are presumed straight unless you say otherwise, it will have to continue. You are right, 'coming out' shouldn't have to a be thing, but it will be until people stop presuming they know people's sexuality without inquiring first

Perhaps a celebrity should just try stepping out in public with someone of the same sex that they're in a relationship with and see how the media reacts. That's how it should be, you just bring home your partner of whatever gender to your parents and they don't make a fuss over it, but unfortunately we've not yet reached that stage.



The point is that it is no one else's place other than one's own to define their sexuality. You (as in collectively, not you, Z) do not 'know' anything, you are just assuming. And more to the point, even if all of that is the case, it does not take away from the fact that some people do not wish to categorise their sexuality - nor, most of the time, is there any need to - and the media's insistence on point blank ignoring someone's wishes of disliking categorisation only fuels this outdated belief that sexuality has to be placed into certain check boxes, you are either this or that, a ridiculously stupid binary. It must stop.

Heteronormative?! Who makes these words up. Cis?! Pansexual?! This is why gender diversity studies needs to be scrapped pronto.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Jack_

as for the predictable comments that'll be thrown around everywhere that always imply bisexuality isn't a thing, all I have to say is do one

Theeres a bisexual male blogger whose whole YouTube was based on the fact he's gay,has come out as gay. The bi guy on Geordie Shore has come out gay. Every single so-called bi guy I see ends up with guys. I am not condoning cheating but its nearly always a so called bi man dating or married with a woman cheating with a guy. I look forward to seeing these so called bi guys dating a man actually cheat with a female or leave a man for a woman.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

oh god here we go

Let's just close the thread here shall we, I think we all know the news now...

No no need to close it.
At all.

Get Smithy to Edit his Heading
when he is home from work.
Bless Him.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

When gay / LGBT folk come out never get why these people get all offended when others beat them to the ounch and reveal they already knew? They get all huffy and prissy as if saying "we all know/ already knew" is the height of homophobia. Whenever someone feels the need to come out, I can always tell and let them know this.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The point is that it is no one else's place other than one's own to define their sexuality. You (as in collectively, not you, Z) do not 'know' anything, you are just assuming. And more to the point, even if all of that is the case, it does not take away from the fact that some people do not wish to categorise their sexuality - nor, most of the time, is there any need to - and the media's insistence on point blank ignoring someone's wishes of disliking categorisation only fuels this outdated belief that sexuality has to be placed into certain check boxes, you are either this or that, a ridiculously stupid binary. It must stop.

I feel what you're saying contradicts itself though, we live in a "heteronormative" society where, unless you're very blatantly homosexual, people will assume you're not until told otherwise, or they might suspect you are but not ask out of politeness. It is therefore up to the individual to directly or indirectly place themselves in a box so people can define them. How do you propose we live in a society where people don't assume your sexuality without LGBT people being more open about their sexuality in the first place? If it's a case of 'act like it's no big deal' then great, it's no big deal, but that doesn't improve the average heterosexual person's understanding of what LGBT is if they're not able to identify people who identify LGBT.

What I do 'know', is that naked pictures purporting to be of George were leaked online; the evidence matches up with who they were sent to and George following that person on social media; and George's subsequent vague video message addressing people's questions about his sexuality. I adamantly believe his video message was worded in a way that wouldn't harm his public image and worded in a way that will allow him to milk this minor news story down the line when his career's at a total stand still; Union J are clearly dead and the guys are trying to spin careers out of the ashes. I don't really have time for gender/sexual politics but I respect that it's something you speak passionately about. I believe he's lying to save face because he was only put in this position because of leaked pictures and he would have continued to live a lie for who knows how much longer if this hadn't have happened. I think it's a good thing. Even in a band with an openly gay member, he still wasn't able to/didn't feel comfortable coming out. There's a video of them discussing sexuality below and George is actively pigeonholing himself into 'straight' territory and pretending not to know words and so on... I remember watching it and thinking he was trying too hard to play to being straight, I've always suspected he's gay.

Youtube video

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

Very well said Lostie

[Natalie.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The title isn't exactly accurate. He made it clear that he could end up dating a male or a female in the future, he hasn't specifically come out as gay. Bisexual and gay are two separate things.

As for the "it's obvious he's gay" comments, they were as predictacle as they are offensive. It'd be nice if people eventually stop casting judgements based on nothing but stereotypes one day.

[MB.]

I do like the school of thought that you're not Officially Bi if you don't cheat on the boyfriend you love with a woman, how very quirky

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

When gay / LGBT folk come out never get why these people get all offended when others beat them to the ounch and reveal they already knew? They get all huffy and prissy as if saying "we all know/ already knew" is the height of homophobia. Whenever someone feels the need to come out, I can always tell and let them know this.

And that's extremely worrying in this day and age. But hey, good for you and your mystical gay detection powers.

[Dollface]

Am I the only one that didn't think he was bi or gay? I didn't know there was any speculation about his sexuality either, I must be living under a rock lmao. Anyway, good for him!