[VanessaFeltz.]

Trash like Danny got cheered but Hira was booed where is justice?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And I find that people usually incite semantic discussions when they're desperately seeking an argument, or to be offended - or both.

I incited nothing, you made a sweeping claim and I wanted clarification on what exactly you meant / who exactly it was referring to. None of which would have been necessary if the wording of your frankly provocative statement wasn't so broad in the first place.

And if you want to find people desperate to be offended by something, I'd look closer to home.

Don't see much point in the two of us engaging in any futher conversation on the issue, I don't see much chance of a common ground being reached.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Apart from helen i cant remember many aggresive white girls doing very well either.

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

Oh right, well it needs merged with all the other ones then.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Exactly.

Jo, Ife and Rachel were practically invisible in the edit and when they were shown they were just shown as quiet, nice, friendly girls. Yet they were all evicted over much more divisive charatcers

And you think White House mates haven't been ?.....sorry, but you dream.....I don't have so many examples cause i don't hang on so much to those old previous shows....but two that spring to mind who were likeable and funny and came across as nice housemate and were evicted really early were the Eastnders actors who played Heather Trott and Sonia Jackson.

If you gen believe the show is so racist then why do you still support such bigotry ? Be like me watching a Chubby Brown DVD, ain't ever gonna happen

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I incited nothing, you made a sweeping claim and I wanted clarification on what exactly you meant / who exactly it was referring to. None of which would have been necessary if the wording of your frankly provocative statement wasn't so broad in the first place.

And if you want to find people desperate to be offended by something, I'd look closer to home.

Don't see much point in the two of us engaging in any futher conversation on the issue, I don't see much chance of a common ground being reached.

Well only one other person responded (and nowhere near as dramatically either) so it can't have been that provocative can it? Maybe you were just looking for an argument, yes I think that's it

LOL I knew that was coming. It's a predictable but entirely false statement I'm afraid. Believe it or not it actually takes a lot for me to be offended, and anyone who knows me that well would vouch for that - I wouldn't constantly defend the boundaries of comedy if I was easily offended. I don't find the inequality that minorities often experience in reality TV offensive, I find it disappointing. There's a difference.

I could have told you that before you even quoted my first post, but sure, I agree.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

It is not attacking white people, we are just stating what we have been seeing for the last 16 years.

I am white too so..

[Headie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

And you think White House mates haven't been ?.....sorry, but you dream.....I don't have so many examples cause i don't hang on so much to those old previous shows....but two that spring to mind who were likeable and funny and came across as nice housemate and were evicted really early were the Eastnders actors who played Heather Trott and Sonia Jackson.

If you gen believe the show is so racist then why do you still support such bigotry ? Be like me watching a Chubby Brown DVD, ain't ever gonna happen

Yes but of course there are going to be white people evicted unjustly when 90% of the cast is white every year anyway?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

I am....I think this reverse racism is very offensive and would never be allowed if it was the other way round.

[Jack_]

NOT 'reverse racism' omg

[Samm]

oh @ people saying it's because they pick the aggressive black females are we all forgetting half a year ago when Adjoa was evicted first and booed for no reason and she was probably one of the most innocent hms in recent times

[Samm]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

No it isn't

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I am....I think this reverse racism is very offensive and would never be allowed if it was the other way round.

Reverse racism DOES exist but this topic has nothing to do with it

[Amy Jade]

Rachel Ifon's eviction was awful - she got an invisible edit but when they did show her she came across as a sweet, fun - loving girl - being evicted over John James and Dave was tragic and is still one of my least favourite evictions because of the nasty crowd treating her so awfully when shed done nothing to deserve it put me off the show, I watched only a few episodes after she left and quit altogether when Corin went.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

oh @ people saying it's because they pick the aggressive black females are we all forgetting half a year ago when Adjoa was evicted first and booed for no reason and she was probably one of the most innocent hms in recent times

Yeah BB are partly responsible for casting black girl stereotypes... but like I said earlier it still doesn't account for why people like Alison, Adele, Anouska, Jo, Ife, Rachel, Rachael, Zoe, Adjoa etc. were all evicted and mostly heavily booed when they were neither 'aggressive' nor 'sassy' or w/e is classed as a stereotypical black girl.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Yeah BB are partly responsible for casting black girl stereotypes... but like I said earlier it still doesn't account for why people like Alison, Adele, Anouska, Jo, Ife, Rachel, Rachael, Zoe, Adjoa etc. were all evicted and mostly heavily booed when they were neither 'aggressive' nor 'sassy' or w/e is classed as a stereotypical black girl.

Oh the reason they booed zoe and voted her out was the most RIDDICULUS reason i have ever heard

[Beso]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

oh @ people saying it's because they pick the aggressive black females are we all forgetting half a year ago when Adjoa was evicted first and booed for no reason and she was probably one of the most innocent hms in recent times

She said herself she wasnt being herself...maybe her vt was rank.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She aaaid herswlf she wasnt being herself...maybe her vt was rank.

what? all what she said in her VT was that she was a lesbian

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Yes but of course there are going to be white people evicted unjustly when 90% of the cast is white every year anyway?

Well that's totally incorrect and frankly, out of order ...not that colour is the only thing that separates peoples culture anyway !! But this year we had Winston and Tiffany who were Black...we had Nancy who was Italian...Jeremy who was Irish...we had Jonathan and Kristina are Russain....we had 4 Americans, 2 gay guys and Gemma, who came from a planet all of her own.
Our country is diverse and accepting ...and people who aren't and people who think we aren't are a dying breed, thank god....in my opinion you are wrong but I believe that you think you are right......must be a terrible weight to carry around

[Headie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Well that's totally incorrect and frankly, out of order ...not that colour is the only thing that separates peoples culture anyway !! But this year we had Winston and Tiffany who were Black...we had Nancy who was Italian...Jeremy who was Irish...we had Jonathan and Kristina are Russain....we had 4 Americans, 2 gay guys and Gemma, who came from a planet all of her own.
Our country is diverse and accepting ...and people who aren't and people who think we aren't are a dying breed, thank god....in my opinion you are wrong but I believe that you think you are right......must be a terrible weight to carry around

Do you realise that nationality, sexuality and personality are all completely different from race?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

what? all what she said in her VT was that she was a lesbian

Poor vt then, she should have done better.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Do you realise that nationality, sexuality and personality are all completely different from race?

Be pedantic if you want, be my guest ....I'm proving how diverse the show is and how many cultures there are involved...race is not divided into two groups, only black and white...and people who think like that are people who only think in black and white.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Be pedantic if you want, be my guest ....I'm proving how diverse the show is and how many cultures there are involved...race is not divided into two groups, only black and white...and people who think like that are people who only think in black and white.

You're completely changing the topic of discussion here so I have no clue what to respond.

What does this have to do with a black woman never winning this show?

[Samm]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Poor vt then, she should have done better.

Lol alright then

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No speaking up for White people, this is a thread for attacking White people.

It's not a thread attacking white people, it's just a thread pointing out how white Housemates get away with more than what black Housemates can, and the Asian Housemates are a rare find on Ch5's BB's to even discuss their statistics.

If Stephanie had've been black in this series do you think that she would've bagged 2nd place with her behaviour? I highly doubt it, I do think she might've made the final due to the production loving her, but she would've probably been the first out in the final.