[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Fine if you are Billy Brag penning a politically charged song but not if you were paid to do one thing and you hijack it for your own personal feelings

So if Chris Martin had used his spot to say that Gay Marriage was wrong and should be outlawed, would that be ok too?


Pretty sure Dezzy would not make a fanboy thread about that?

Over time lots of artists have chosen to air views to a large audience, if Chris had chosen to do that then yes it would be totally fine by me, not that I believe that's a realistic scenario.
What dezzy would or wouldn't do is of no concern to me is it?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Fine if you are Billy Brag penning a politically charged song but not if you were paid to do one thing and you hijack it for your own personal feelings

So if Chris Martin had used his spot to say that Gay Marriage was wrong and should be outlawed, would that be ok too?


Pretty sure Dezzy would not make a fanboy thread about that?

I wouldn't have agreed with it but I wouldn't have tried to shut him down from having that opinion or expressing it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I wouldn't have agreed with it but I wouldn't have tried to shut him down from having that opinion or expressing it.

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

Are you basing this supposition on your hypothetical scenario?
Curiouser and curiouser.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Are you basing this supposition on your hypothetical scenario?
Curiouser and curiouser.

yes, I think its a reasonable counter


Pop star hijacks a music event to campaign for a cause that say Dezzy strongly disagrees with


result: outrage and disgust that the pop star did that and the ensuing thread to follow

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she was the half time fluff at a football match, serious issue my arse

she was there to sing. if its a serious issue then take it up with people who can make change and not make some half baked showbiz point


her awful songs are the only thing that make me uncomfortable

You have a sad way of amusing yourself.

Music is art and art is expression. Whether it's political or not - the point is to express. She's not just some performing puppet. She made reference to one of the most relevant and important social issues here in America right now. The Super Bowl is the highest rated television event of the year, it represents American culture - and I think it's a brilliant platform for "political" statements. And to state the blatantly obvious, there is nothing outrageous about her performance, song, or video. The only ones who are outraged are racists, the self-perpetuating victims of their own hate.

[iRyan]

"I thought it was really outrageous that she used it as a platform to attack police officers who are the people who protect her and protect us, and keep us alive," he told Fox News.

Police officers are here to protect white, wealthy, and privileged people.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes, I think its a reasonable counter


Pop star hijacks a music event to campaign for a cause that say Dezzy strongly disagrees with


result: outrage and disgust that the pop star did that and the ensuing thread to follow

Here is a comprehensive list of protest songs, could I have your interpretation to dezzys reaction to each please?...
http://showbams.com/2012/11/09/10-mo...last-50-years/

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

Lies.

My approach has always been that everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone is free to comment on that opinion.

It just goes to show how weak your argument is that you must resort to outright lies to try to score points.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by iRyan

Police officers are here to protect white, wealthy, and privileged people.

and there you show your hand for all to see

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Lies.

My approach has always been that everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone is free to comment on that opinion.

It just goes to show how weak your argument is that you must resort to outright lies to try to score points.

easy to say Dezzy but sadly your rep rather disagrees with you there

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and there you show your hand for all to see

Yet you can't offer up anything in the form of a counter argument because you know he's right.

If a white child is ever killed by the police in America, the officers who did it would be strung up for it. If a black child is killed than the media will do everything that can to blame the victim by dragging his name through the mud.

America has more sympathy for it's white mass shooters than it does for black victims of police brutality.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

easy to say Dezzy but sadly your rep rather disagrees with you there

Based on what? Your own imagination?

I've said my piece on opinions in the SD section alone so much that it's almost become my mantra, any regulars that aren't blinded by their own bias like you are can attest to that. The fact that you can't offer up any evidence to the contrary and can only dish out weak snide comments aimed at my character just shows how you don't have a leg to stand on in this discussion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anti-Beyoncé Protest Rally - New York




https://www.eventbrite.com/e/anti-be...791?aff=efbneb

UPDATE - A Press Release Will Be Dropped On Friday, February 12:
This press release will contain a lot of new information about our peaceful movement ... including our Mission Statement, a FAQ, printable signs in PDF format, breaking news with additional protest dates in the future, and more.

Stay tuned! Dress Code: WEAR BLUE! WEAR AS MUCH BLUE AS POSSIBLE!

Avoid wearing black because there will likely be counter-protesters wearing all black attire. More details will be in the press release. Stay tuned!

Youtube video

Note: I dont condone this mans language but it is a counter view to the thread

[Z]

I don't take issue with her making a point about race and racism or choosing to perform it at the Superbowl, I take issue with the song not being very good. But I don't suppose that's the point of the song, it's a political statement, not a pop song. Good for her expressing those views, she's arguably the most visible and important black woman in the world. As a white man, I don't think this song is made for people like me and I think from the point of view of her music career, it's a bit of an odd release strategy for her new album, it creates a problem where music made by a black woman for black women (black people in general) is pushed as the lead single, so she's going to have fans of all races singing this song back at her and creating yet more of these ****ing irritating social justice warrior issues... I won't be getting in Formation but I appreciate what she's trying to do, I guess.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Anti-Beyoncé Protest Rally - New York




https://www.eventbrite.com/e/anti-be...791?aff=efbneb

UPDATE - A Press Release Will Be Dropped On Friday, February 12:
This press release will contain a lot of new information about our peaceful movement ... including our Mission Statement, a FAQ, printable signs in PDF format, breaking news with additional protest dates in the future, and more.

Stay tuned! Dress Code: WEAR BLUE! WEAR AS MUCH BLUE AS POSSIBLE!

Avoid wearing black because there will likely be counter-protesters wearing all black attire. More details will be in the press release. Stay tuned!

Youtube video

Note: I dont condone this mans language but it is a counter view to the thread

He's a great example of the idiocy of the people who defend the police blindly. The fact that he thinks it's a matter of simply hating on the police shows how ignorant he is of the matter.

It's not about hating the police, it's about holding the police officers who abuse their positions accountable for their actions and unfortunately for America, that doesn't happen enough. Black children are getting gunned down for no reason by officers who shouldn't even be on desk duty, never mind in possession of a gun. Look at that case from a few weeks back when the police basically committed a driveby on an innocent child. It's these racist psychopaths who just want to kill that are ruining it for the majority of police officers who are capable of performing their jobs properly.

That guy's an idiot who's using broad examples to tear down something that makes him feel uncomfortable.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He's a great example of the idiocy of the people who defend the police blindly. The fact that he thinks it's a matter of simply hating on the police shows how ignorant he is of the matter.

It's not about hating the police, it's about holding the police officers who abuse their positions accountable for their actions and unfortunately for America, that doesn't happen enough. Black children are getting gunned down for no reason by officers who shouldn't even be on desk duty, never mind in possession of a gun. Look at that case from a few weeks back when the police basically committed a driveby on an innocent child. It's these racist psychopaths who just want to kill that are ruining it for the majority of police officers who are capable of performing their jobs properly.

That guy's an idiot who's using broad examples to tear down something that makes him feel uncomfortable.

Youtube video

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He's a great example of the idiocy of the people who defend the police blindly. The fact that he thinks it's a matter of simply hating on the police shows how ignorant he is of the matter.

It's not about hating the police, it's about holding the police officers who abuse their positions accountable for their actions and unfortunately for America, that doesn't happen enough. Black children are getting gunned down for no reason by officers who shouldn't even be on desk duty, never mind in possession of a gun. Look at that case from a few weeks back when the police basically committed a driveby on an innocent child. It's these racist psychopaths who just want to kill that are ruining it for the majority of police officers who are capable of performing their jobs properly.

That guy's an idiot who's using broad examples to tear down something that makes him feel uncomfortable.

I'm all for people who abuse their positions being held accountable.

[Alf]

http://downtrend.com/71superb/black-...oy-with-autism

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

http://downtrend.com/71superb/black-...oy-with-autism

Seems that particular cop had some sort of feud with the boys father over a woman

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ted-house.html

[GiRTh]

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/1102325...-formation-nfl

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/02/anti...c-protest.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

She was paid to sing not make some half-assed political statement

The police have a hard enough job without pop singers trying to make it harder

silly woman

Yes LT.
Cops do not need a Women Star like that

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

[Ammi]

...awwww, no one turned up to the protest to even bring them a coffee/a Starbucks or something, they look freezing cold.....