[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why not? It's not your or my job either but we can have our say

yes, but if you or I say anything, nobody listens (usually)

With power comes responsibility, and its really none of his business as head of the Catholic church

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, but if you or I say anything, nobody listens (usually)

With power comes responsibility, and its really none of his business as head of the Catholic church

I would have thought it was his business given Mexico is a predominately Catholic country

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would have thought it was his business given Mexico is a predominately Catholic country

If a religious leader in this day and age thinks that they can influence the results of a foreign powers democratic election, they better be prepared for fallout and backlash. America, unlike the UK, does not have an allegiance to any faith in its politics so the pope should quite frankly butt out.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If a religious leader in this day and age thinks that they can influence the results of a foreign powers democratic election, they better be prepared for fallout and backlash. America, unlike the UK, does not have an allegiance to any faith in its politics so the pope should quite frankly butt out.

..he specifically said though that he wasn't getting involved other than to say that a person (any person..).. who only thinks about making walls again and again and not making bridges, isn't a Christian, that wouldn't be a 'Christian philosophy' to do that...and IF that's what Trump was a man like that, then he wouldn't be a Chistian..it seems like a fair comment for any Christian to make ....what's more worrying to me is that he is the head of the Catholic Church and seems unaware of what Trump's views are.../he should have probably just said that he'd take the Fifth Amendment or something and said nothing at all...but then that would have been difficult also with a direct question....

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..he specifically said though that he wasn't getting involved other than to say that a person (any person..).. who only thinks about making walls again and again and not making bridges, isn't a Christian, that wouldn't be a 'Christian philosophy' to do that...and IF that's what Trump was a man like that, then he wouldn't be a Chistian..it seems like a fair comment for any Christian to make ....what's more worrying to me is that he is the head of the Catholic Church and seems unaware of what Trump's views are.../he should have probably just said that he'd take the Fifth Amendment or something and said nothing at all...but then that would have been difficult also with a direct question....

I am not involved in this thread ..... oh wait

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I am not involved in this thread ..... oh wait

..haha, I see what you did there.....it would be nice to think that he would have taken more of a world interest in important things though, not just a spiritual one...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If a religious leader in this day and age thinks that they can influence the results of a foreign powers democratic election, they better be prepared for fallout and backlash. America, unlike the UK, does not have an allegiance to any faith in its politics so the pope should quite frankly butt out.

It's the land of the free, including free speech

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If a religious leader in this day and age thinks that they can influence the results of a foreign powers democratic election, they better be prepared for fallout and backlash. America, unlike the UK, does not have an allegiance to any faith in its politics so the pope should quite frankly butt out.

The republicans & democrats do seem to bring up god and christianity far more than labour & conservatives do here though.. so I'm not sure what this claim is based upon.

[bots]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The republicans & democrats do seem to bring up god and christianity far more than labour & conservatives do here though.. so I'm not sure what this claim is based upon.

In the UK, the state is specifically aligned with the Anglican church, thus the reason why religion is taught in schools.

in the USA, the country is not aligned with any religion, and the teaching of religion is forbidden in schools.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If a religious leader in this day and age thinks that they can influence the results of a foreign powers democratic election, they better be prepared for fallout and backlash. America, unlike the UK, does not have an allegiance to any faith in its politics so the pope should quite frankly butt out.

You couldn't be more wrong.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You couldn't be more wrong.

how do you figure? most christians in America don't even think catholics are "real christians" because they worship false gods (they pray to saints). and our head of state isn't a religious figure, unlike in the UK where the Queen is considered the head of the anglican church AND the head of state.

[bots]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You couldn't be more wrong.

I beg your pardon? I couldn't be more right actually

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I beg your pardon? I couldn't be more right actually

According to the firsts amendment, American politics are not supposed to have any allegiance with religion but that doesn't mean they don't.

71% of Americans are Christians and that's why politicians frequently discuss religion when campaigning.