[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't want to speak for TS but what i took him to mean re the Steve Avery case was people were happy to speculate and to suggest that it may have been Teresas brother or ex B/f or Brendans brother and step dad etc, I don't think he was specifically referring to you Ammi just a general observation on how one thing is ok to do but the other is not

..the two are not comparable at all though because a crime/murder had occurred and a murderer had been charged and sentenced and it was described as an 'unprecedented thriller series' and made to invite theories and speculations etc...I'm not going to divert the thread anymore with Making of a Murderer because it has no connection to any similarities with Madeleine's disappearance whatsoever...and to make any connection at all and relate it to anyone else's opinions was extremely shabby...imo of course...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the two are not comparable at all though because a crime/murder had occurred and a murderer had been charged and sentenced and it was described as an 'unprecedented thriller series' and made to invite theories and speculations etc...I'm not going to divert the thread anymore with Making of a Murderer because it has no connection to any similarities with Madeleine's disappearance whatsoever...and to make any connection at all and relate it to anyone else's opinions was extremely shabby...imo of course...

Of course it's comparable. A crime was committed (this part is certain in both cases) and people are speculating / debating over what may actually have happened. You say that the difference is that a murderer was charged and sentenced in one case whereas in the other no one has ever been charged and an exact scenario has never even been accepted by the authorities as the true chain of events.

If anything, is it not far LESS appropriate to speculate over a case where a verdict has already been given in a court of law, than on one where literally no one even claims to know exactly what happened? There is no status-quo timeline to accept, other than that "a little girl went missing somehow". It's wide open for speculation... and not much else.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the two are not comparable at all though because a crime/murder had occurred and a murderer had been charged and sentenced and it was described as an 'unprecedented thriller series' and made to invite theories and speculations etc...I'm not going to divert the thread anymore with Making of a Murderer because it has no connection to any similarities with Madeleine's disappearance whatsoever...and to make any connection at all and relate it to anyone else's opinions was extremely shabby...imo of course...

It doesn't matter though if that's what the documentary wanted from a person, there's plenty of documentaries made too about Maddie McCann, some wanting you to think one way and some wanting you to think another. The difference being that no one actually knows what happened to the victim in the McCann case, nevermind who was responsible (although clearly some of that responsibility lies with her parents regardless of what happened that night imo)

Actually, I was thinking earlier what peoples opinions would be if the scenario was slightly different and instead of Maddie just disappearing without a trace she got up looking for her parents, couldn't find them so went out the unlocked patio door and fell in the pool and drowned while trying to find them. I wonder what peoples opinions on that situation would be? Would they still find the McCanns to be blameless?

[lime]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It doesn't matter though if that's what the documentary wanted from a person, there's plenty of documentaries made too about Maddie McCann, some wanting you to think one way and some wanting you to think another. The difference being that no one actually knows what happened to the victim in the McCann case, nevermind who was responsible (although clearly some of that responsibility lies with her parents regardless of what happened that night imo)

Actually, I was thinking earlier what peoples opinions would be if the scenario was slightly different and instead of Maddie just disappearing without a trace she got up looking for her parents, couldn't find them so went out the unlocked patio door and fell in the pool and drowned while trying to find them. I wonder what peoples opinions on that situation would be? Would they still find the McCanns to be blameless?

totally agree Niamh..I have no idea what happened to this poor child ...what I do know is that she would be safe if it wasn't for the neglect of her parents.I am by no means the perfect parent mine are boys 24,23,20 and an 11yr old girl.I would be sick to my stomach if I was neglectful enough to leave them unsupervised....and then even though Maddie cried to her parents about waking up without them being there ....to carry on being so neglectful is showing me ...something isn't right there

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by lime

totally agree Niamh..I have no idea what happened to this poor child ...what I do know is that she would be safe if it wasn't for the neglect of her parents.I am by no means the perfect parent mine are boys 24,23,20 and an 11yr old girl.I would be sick to my stomach if I was neglectful enough to leave them unsupervised....and then even though Maddie cried to her parents about waking up without them being there ....to carry on being so neglectful is showing me ...something isn't right there

Oh that's a big gap! I bet those are very over protective big brothers

And yeah, I guess, especially after Maddie had told them she woke up and was scared and crying and they still did it after that is what gets me even more than anything. I would be horrified with myself and consumed with guilt for just that incident alone

[lime]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh that's a big gap! I bet those are very over protective big brothers

And yeah, I guess, especially after Maddie had told them she woke up and was scared and crying and they still did it after that is what gets me even more than anything. I would be horrified with myself and consumed with guilt for just that incident alone

yeah ..probalby a little over protective....But you know what as a parent even still when the lads are working away (the two oldest) or when my youngest lad goes away with his mates for the weekend...I still worry about them..so how a parent can sit down and eat a plate of food knowing that these babies were alone in a strange country is beyond me