[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in your scenario

the maccanns did something that they now regret, they and the other people thought it was ok at the time - it turned out to be a mistake in that specific situation

Take away the man or woman who snatched the child and there is no danger.

Of course there was danger, two two year olds and a 3 year old alone in an unlocked apartment and there's no danger wtf? lol Roads + Cars + Unlocked Doors + 3 year olds = Disaster for one thing, also the McCanns (apparently) were the only ones stupid enough to leave the door unlocked btw

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course there was danger, two two year olds and a 3 year old alone in an unlocked apartment and there's no danger wtf? lol Roads + Cars + Unlocked Doors + 3 year olds = Disaster for one thing, also the McCanns (apparently) were the only ones stupid enough to leave the door unlocked btw

there are dangers like that going to the shops, leaving them at nursery etc

kids get hanged on cords of blinds while mum hoovers, they choke on lego, 58,000 children have accidents on domestic stairs each year

I saw a line of nursery kids today walking down a busy road, if one saw a dog and ran after it...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there are dangers like that going to the shops, leaving them at nursery etc

kids get hanged on cords of blinds while mum hoovers, they choke on lego, 58,000 children have accidents on domestic stairs each year

I saw a line of nursery kids today walking down a busy road, if one saw a dog and ran after it...

Answer me this then, have you ever left your kids alone at home/on holiday while you went out for a meal and some drinks, when they were babies?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Answer me this then, have you ever left your kids alone at home/on holiday while you went out for a meal and some drinks, when they were babies?

i never but my life or yours is not a template for perfection

I once picked up my eldest in her car seat thinking she was strapped in and launched her across the room, she landed on the carpet unhurt but she could have ended up in the fireplace engulfed in flames (it was horrible).

I would not have done what they did because i would have thought "what is some paedo comes and takes them" as i am naturally cautious and do not trust anyone but i understand others are different.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i never but my life or yours is not a template for perfection

I once picked up my eldest in her car seat thinking she was strapped in and launched her across the room, she landed on the carpet unhurt but she could have ended up in the fireplace engulfed in flames (it was horrible).

I would not have done what they did because i would have thought "what is some paedo comes and takes them" as i am naturally cautious and do not trust anyone but i understand others are different.

There's a pretty huge difference between an absent-minded accident and a reckless, yet entirely pre-planned, course of action. Everyone has accidents with their kids. When my eldest was 2, I hit a kerb with her in the buggy, and she'd climbed out of her straps. She was launched out of it about 3 feet, face down into the snow. It was ****ing hilarious. BUT of course, there could have been a rock there and it could have ended horribly. It was still an accident. There are countless stories of parents not paying attention / being aware of where a child is and reversing their car into them. Often with horrible outcomes. Still everyday accidents. Sometimes those accidents are even fatal.

...choosing to leave your children alone in an unlocked room and go for dinner, is not an accident. They didn't trip on the steps, roll a few hundred metres and land in a pile of Tapas.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's a pretty huge difference between an absent-minded accident and a reckless, yet entirely pre-planned, course of action. Everyone has accidents with their kids. When my eldest was 2, I hit a kerb with her in the buggy, and she'd climbed out of her straps. She was launched out of it about 3 feet, face down into the snow. It was ****ing hilarious. BUT of course, there could have been a rock there and it could have ended horribly. It was still an accident. There are countless stories of parents not paying attention / being aware of where a child is and reversing their car into them. Often with horrible outcomes. Still everyday accidents. Sometimes those accidents are even fatal.

...choosing to leave your children alone in an unlocked room and go for dinner, is not an accident. They didn't trip on the steps, roll a few hundred metres and land in a pile of Tapas.

tes but TS for your scenario to work you need to add a child snatcher into it


other wise, nowt happens

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

tes but TS for your scenario to work you need to add a child snatcher into it


other wise, nowt happens

"Sorry officer, when I was hurtling down the country road at 100mph and overtook a tractor on a blind corner, I honestly thought it was OK at the time. Take away that family hatchback coming the other way that I forced off of the road, or that tree that they hit, or their tank full of petrol that exploded... and there was no danger. Am I free to go?"

The assumed outcome... hell, even the ACTUAL outcome of an act... has absolutely no bearing on whether or not that action was stupid.

I literally just posted this...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i never but my life or yours is not a template for perfection

I once picked up my eldest in her car seat thinking she was strapped in and launched her across the room, she landed on the carpet unhurt but she could have ended up in the fireplace engulfed in flames (it was horrible).

I would not have done what they did because i would have thought "what is some paedo comes and takes them" as i am naturally cautious and do not trust anyone but i understand others are different.

I rest my case though, i knew you wouldn't have because you aren't stupid and you don't come across as irresponsible either.

like you, the "someone coming into the apartment" would have crossed my mind but not as much as the - what if they wake and have an accident? What if maddie wakes and wanders out the unlocked door and gets run over? Or mainly what if they wake up crying and there's no one there to comfort them and they're absolutely terrified because they're on their own.... and even if none of those thoughts had occurred to them on their own, surely Maddie actually telling them she and her younger brother had woken up scared and alone the night before would have ticked that box for them?