[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Elvis did that.


Funky Elvis

I did not like his Death
sat on a Bog with a Burger

ffs

[Headie]

Screaming @ the end of the video

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

I must be ruder

I think we all have a little leeway tbh

[Ninastar]

I think the thing i dread the most about moving back to the states is being told I cant say/do something cause of my skin colour. Guess I deserve it tho cause I'm white

[RichardG]

not the asians too

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by arista

They look like the grinch's fingers

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Smithy

They look like the grinch's fingers

The first post in this thread that makes sense to me

[Samm]

Copying a hairstyle has nothing to do with racism, and in my humble opinion we should all in brace everyone's culture. It isn't really anyone's fault since both sides of the argument make it worse.

[Marsh.]

I love to in brace my fellow humans.

[arista]

Youtube video

32 Bit Top sound.

Key words for this great thread
"This World Was Made For All Men"


At the very ending
with the crowds shouting
in the background Stevie Wonder sings through a Early Vocorder
1975.



Feel The Force

[DemolitionRed]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Freedom of expression is surely a good thing? I mean, I love retro clothing and hairstyles but I wasn't born in the 50s

I've also hung out with a lot of hippies, especially climbers who often wear their hair in dreds. It just saves them having to carry a comb or worry about washing it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Freedom of expression is surely a good thing? I mean, I love retro clothing and hairstyles but I wasn't born in the 50s

I've also hung out with a lot of hippies, especially climbers who often wear their hair in dreds. It just saves them having to carry a comb or worry about washing it.

This is how I see it too, it's not a slight at all nor is it ignorant to colonial attitudes then or ignoring there is still a looooong way to go now.
I say pick your battles, of all the injustices that impact on different cultures today, this seems the least injust.

[user104658]

What really confuses me is, it's the same people complaining the loudest about segregation who are complaining about integration!

Seriously. Which is it. Do you want a world where people can be happy to be who they are no matter their skin colour, without fear of discrimination... Or do you want a world where everyone must stay "in their lane" and only do "white people things" or style themselves a "black person way"?

Is it OK to say people are different because they're a different colour? Or not? A choice must be made here, it can't be both!

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What really confuses me is, it's the same people complaining the loudest about segregation who are complaining about integration!

Seriously. Which is it. Do you want a world where people can be happy to be who they are no matter their skin colour, without fear of discrimination... Or do you want a world where everyone must stay "in their lane" and only do "white people things" or style themselves a "black person way"?

Is it OK to say people are different because they're a different colour? Or not? A choice must be made here, it can't be both!

This is very, very true. If you hate the way black people were treated many years ago, why try and treat white people with the same hostility?

[Vicky.]

Well..this thread is (or was) a mess. And the woman in the OP is just stupid.

/my input

[Beso]

how can not touching your hair for months be described as a style! get a bloody wash mate.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm going to be totally blunt and frank here.For starters.This is bollocks.
All i see here is a few(and i say a few because not one black person i know is into this getting offended over everything they can crap).A few people(More than likey mainly in America) walking around with a massive chip on their shoulder because they somehow feel left out because they don't face the struggle that their ancestors did and they're like 'well where's my struggle?'
So they're making up and putting out silly new terms like "cultural appropriation " to try to feel included and because people are so naive and scared that they might actually be offending an entire race they lap this **** up and become more and more oppressed by ridiculous new 'rules' made up by a small minority of people with feck all better to do.
These opinions don't reflect the views of any black person i know.They all just get on with life.Stupid crap like this gives the majority of sensible normal black people a bad name because they don't wanna be associated with this faux offence crap.The best thing that anyone can do with new fads like "cultural appropriation" is dismiss them and get on with life and style their hair,clothes,jewellery however they choose to.We are a multicultural world now and we as humans inherently take on each others culture traits.That is how we evolved as a species and still are.Treat this shet with the contempt it deserves and be free.

[Northern Monkey]

And if somebody comes up to you for real and says they're 'offended' by what you're wearing then your response should be 'Great that is your right.Just as it's my right to wear whatever i want.Now feck off out of my way and go and be offended somewhere else'

[waterhog]

errrrrrrrrrrrr haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[kirklancaster]

This THREAD is banal, but I just want to redress a few wrongs, starting with Elvis Presley - Elvis did not 'steal' anything from anyone.

Elvis Presley - like Sinatra and Bobby Darin - was a champion of 'Black Civil Rights'.

Elvis grew up dirt poor in East Tupelo Mississippi, played with dirt poor black friends, and would spend hours 'over the tracks' in 'Shake Rag', a poor Black community, listening to black musicians playing their music on the porches of their shacks.

As an unknown kid trying to cut a record in the legendary 'Sun' studios in Memphis, it was Elvis who first played the 'black' music he so loved, in the form of his version of Arthur 'Big Boy' Crudup's 'That's All Right', whilst he and guitarist Scotty Moore and bassist Bill Black were stuck for what to play.

Producer Sam Phillips heard the impromptu 'jam' session and the rest is history.

Elvis went on to record other black artists music such as 'Hound Dog' by Willie Mae 'Big Mama' Thornton, as well as record - and make famous - other 'little known' Arthur Crudup songs, and was later to be instrumental behind-the-scenes in helping Crudup receive over $60,000 (a fortune then) in royalties which the record companies had fleeced him out of.

Crudup himself payed compliment to Elvis and said; "I'm sure glad Elvis did those songs, I sure as hell wasn't going anywhere with them".

Elvis LOVED black people and from his cooks and housekeepers, Mary Jane Langston (for whom he bought 3 cars and a 3 bedroom home) and Nancy Rooks, to black musical legends like James Brown, BB King, and Sammy Davis Jnr, to the thousands of black people weeping uncontollably as his funeral cortege passed, BLACK PEOPLE LOVED ELVIS.

Sammy Davis Jr : -- "The only thing I want to know is, 'Was he my friend?', 'Did I enjoy him as a performer?', 'Did he give the world of entertainment something?' - and the answer is YES on all accounts. Early on somebody told me that Elvis was black. And I said 'No, he's white but he's down-home'. And that is what it's all about. Not being black or white it's being 'down-home' and which part of down-home you come from'. On a scale of one to ten, I would rate Elvis eleven"

James Brown -- "I wasn't just a fan, I was his brother. Elvis was a hard worker, dedicated, and God loved him ... I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There'll never be another like that soul brother. I loved the man and he was truly the king of rock and roll".

It is wrong to besmirch someone like Elvis in a thread which has descended into yet another 'racism' argument, when the man did so much for black people and was so respected and loved by the black people who actually KNEW him.

I KNOW, because the people off-Tibb who really KNOW me are astounded that I am often (wrongly) perceived as 'racist' or 'xenophobic' on here by some because of my views.

As to the sporting of 'dreadlocks' by white people - So what?

Assimilation is a two-way street - or ought to be.

Part of the huge problem with the Muslim immigrant women in Western Society, is the Hijabs, Niqabs, and Burkas.

Rightly or wrongly, indigenous people in Western Countries would feel more comfortable were Islamic women to wear more 'Western' type clothing - as SOME courageous Muslim women in the UK already do, much to their own risk - and NO ONE in their right mind would point the finger at a Muslim woman wearing Western clothes and berate her for doing so, or accuse her of 'copying' our culture.

From the height of Tamla Motown, when The Supremes and other superstars straightened their afro-american hair, to the '80's when singers such as the half-Jamaican singer Yazz ('The Only Way Is Up') sported bleached blond hair, to the present, with Beyonce and a host of others sporting blond tresses and even wearing blue/green contact lenses over their brown irises, I can not ever recall ANYONE anywhere ever accusing any black celebrity of either 'betraying their own culture' OR '(mis)appropriating' a Western culture, and the whole subject is just ludicrous.

As ludicrous as 'Colour Recognition' itself:

Does ANYONE in the world who is sane, REALLY look at Muhammad Ali or Wesley Snipes and automatically THINK; 'there is that BLACK boxer Muhammad Ali' or 'there is that BLACK actor Wesley Snipes'?

NO - THEY SEE JUST A BOXER AND ACTOR.

If I disturbed a burglary at my home and saw a BLACK burglar running away, I would use the descriptor 'BLACK MAN' in my report to the police - purely as an aid to identifying the possible culprit.

But if I were discussing the song 'All The Single Ladies' with a friend who had not heard the track, I would NOT say; "You remember, by that BLACK singer Beyonce" - it would simply be; "It was by Beyonce".

There is a very disturbing and sick 'Culture of Fear' in society now; one which prevents ordinary people from doing erstwhile innocent things, or speaking certain erstwhile acceptable truths, because they FEAR that their actions and words will be misinterpreted and that they will be 'pounced upon' with grave consequences by the P.C. Brigade.

Perhaps those who consistently perceive 'Racism' in all its forms in people who are not racist, and in innocent situations where racism does not exist, should start self-analysis and looking deeper into their own tormented psyche.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Black people aren't the only ones to have worn Dreadlocks though, Celts had them as did Vikings and apparently they originated in India. Getting annoyed with another race wearing a hairstyle you deem to be part of your culture is just pure stupidity imo. If white people claimed that black people weren't allowed wear their hair a certain way there would be up roar.

Agree with this. If white people said black people should not dye their hair blonde, or wear blue contact lenses there would be, as you say, uproar.

Maybe people should just mind their own business, live and let live.

[Crimson Dynamo]

watcha liv

[bots]

I could understand it if it was seen as a core factor that contributed to a particular races identity AND it was being used in a derogatory fashion. I don't think this satisfies either criteria so its just another example of someone desperate to be offended.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

watcha liv

Hey Trumpet x

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This THREAD is banal, but I just want to redress a few wrongs, starting with Elvis Presley - Elvis did not 'steal' anything from anyone.

Elvis Presley - like Sinatra and Bobby Darin - was a champion of 'Black Civil Rights'.

].

Cool story bruh. Lincoln also championed for blacks, abolishing slavery, but he still thought the white race was superior.