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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well that is good and they will need to influence their govts if at the end of the negotiations somewhere around 1919/20, the deal is not acceptable.

I understand several EU nations can hold referenda on the issue but I may have understood that wrong but then it will still have to be then ratified by all Nations in the EU anyway.

If all the problems/worries/concerns cannot be erased as to the objections being raised to same then it is unlikely all EU nations will in fact end up ratifying it,which will in effect be needed to enact it anyway.
If we were top leave the EU, then we would have no say and not vote in it at all being agreed or not,yet it may be possible unless,the out organisation can solidly prove otherwise, that we may have to accept it,whether it ends up being a good or bad thing, even if out.

Cameron has certainly led the way when it comes to the TTIP and he's going to continue that push if we leave the EU but his position is going to be rocky because we, the citizens we will have far more influence in Westminster than we do in Europe.
Voting to remain in the EU is giving consent to the TTIP without any democratic scrutiny whatsoever. Voting for Brexit will at least ensure the TTIP undergoes democratic scrutiny through both Houses.