[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you want to denounce your own rights just because of a niche example, that seems smart.

I cannot abide it. It's just stupid beyond words how people are willing to throw away the rights which prevents countries from turning into North Korea just because they're scared ****less of a boogeyman or because they want to be petty. It's ****ing aggravating, self entitled and just ignorant to an extreme.

As usual the straw man argument arguing against something ive not even said lol thay may work on campus but not in the real world. the human rights laws always existed, we have our own in the UK that is perfectly suitable. The example I gave was very important and you shouldnt dismiss the mass killings by terrorists inspired and taught by radical preachers. people have the human right to live in peace free from terrorism and hateful preachers on the streets demanding a fatwa on infidels. The human rights laws simply needing tweekin in the uk and applying better by police and politicians scared of political correctness created by new labour

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

As usual the straw man argument arguing against something ive not even said lol thay may work on campus but not in the real world. the human rights laws always existed, we have our own in the UK that is perfectly suitable. The example I gave was very important and you shouldnt dismiss the mass killings by terrorists inspired and taught by radical preachers. people have the human right to live in peace free from terrorism and hateful preachers on the streets demanding a fatwa on infidels. The human rights laws simply needing tweekin in the uk and applying better by police and politicians scared of political correctness created by new labour

Surely resorting to the whole terrorism angle as a reason to oppose the Human Rights act is the biggest strawman of all.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Surely resorting to the whole terrorism angle as a reason to oppose the Human Rights act is the biggest strawman of all.

you really dont even understand the strawman...the strawman is a false argument. the terrorism is real. we need laws that deal with terrorism which kills tens of thousands around the world each year, and we must forget illegal immigration either

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you really dont even understand the strawman...the strawman is a false argument. the terrorism is real. we need laws that deal with terrorism which kills tens of thousands around the world each year, and we must forget illegal immigration either

And leaving the EU will magically end terrorism and illegal immigration forever?

Bull****, what will likely happen is more bull**** like the snoopers charter, except worse, since there wont be any EU laws preventing it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

you really dont even understand the strawman...the strawman is a false argument. the terrorism is real. we need laws that deal with terrorism which kills tens of thousands around the world each year, and we must forget illegal immigration either

I understand more than you do, you don't even understand the fact that, like or it not, everyone is entitled to their Human Rights and you keep bringing up the tired ol' Terrorism example to reinforce to everyone how little you understand.

Everyone in this country is entitled to their human rights, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, and that's how it should stay. It's not Human Rights if you pick and choose who deserves it. It's all or nothing.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I understand more than you do, you don't even understand the fact that, like or it not, everyone is entitled to their Human Rights and you keep bringing up the tired ol' Terrorism example to reinforce to everyone how little you understand.

Everyone in this country is entitled to their human rights, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, and that's how it should stay. It's not Human Rights if you pick and choose who deserves it. It's all or nothing.

you are wrong. Everyone has human rights, but when a terrorists kills 100s of people they deserve to be killed so save any future fatalities. The fact is the human rights have always existed and always been amended over time. british human rights are perectly fine. the eu human rights is too rigid too broad and due to this inflexibility it sees far too many serious terrorists to slip through the net. Thankfully the government has slowly brought the laws into line to try to deal with this relatively new phenomena of netwrok terrorism. Flexibility if the key and reacting to the changing circumstances. your hard line inflexible stance is extremely dangerous. there are always exceptions to every law. when a cop is chasing a man with a loaded gun who has already killed, that man does not maintain the same human rights at the exact moment, he has the right to give himself up or he dies.