[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The Apprentice and Bake Off are just two formats that the public no say in and they're some of the most successful shows on TV

Watching a TV show doesn't give you the right to be involved, nor should it. Especially when that say is historically proven to be tragic. The public have absolutely no idea what they are talking about and should be kept as far away from control over who's evicted as possible.

The public can't really vote on whose cake tastes the best or who is capable of running a business can they?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The public can't really vote on whose cake tastes the best or who is capable of running a business can they?

And the public can't really vote on who and who isn't beneficial to a Big Brother series, as proven time and time again

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And the public can't really vote on who and who isn't beneficial to a Big Brother series, as proven time and time again

Well yes they can as they sit watching them every night for 3 months and each different person has a different idea on who they want to win so if you don't like it then it isn't the show for you

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Adam.

2 total different type of shows.

Would people still watch the X Factor, BGT or SCD if they took away the public vote? Why they are there they may aswell only give the juries the option to vote on Eurovision

The first Popstars had no public vote and was extremely successful and actually led the charge for the multitude of talent shows we have today.

Being able to vote on a TV show is not a God-given right, it's just something a few shows in the UK choose to do. Doesn't always happen in the US and it doesn't mean it has to happen here either.

The quicker the clueless public are away from this show, the better.

Originally Posted by Adam.

Well yes they can as they sit watching them every night for 3 months and each different person has a different idea on who they want to win so if you don't like it then it isn't the show for you

Yes and their 'different idea' is usually 'oh isn't he fit, she's such an ugly slag she can go!!!' it's entirely unfounded and ruins series after series and then rather ironically the same people have the audacity to complain that the show has become 'boring'

[Greg!]

I wouldn't mind if they introduced elements of BBUS or BBCAN but it needs to keep the public vote. One of the worst things about the last BBCAN is that the best people were voted out when the public would have kept them

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I wouldn't mind if they introduced elements of BBUS or BBCAN but it needs to keep the public vote. One of the worst things about the last BBCAN is that the best people were voted out when the public would have kept them

Yeah, the Canadian's would have kept them. If the UK's favourites were as good as they (usually) are over there, I'd be happy to keep the public vote. But they aren't. So it would still be a total waste of time.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And I hate it when people insist they don't want to adopt the US format when they've never even seen an episode of it (this isn't directed at you, just in general). What we have now isn't BBUK, it's so far removed it's laughable. And more to the point - the UK format sucks compared to the US and Canada one. Why would I just want it to continue just because 'that's BBUK' when the other is more interesting? Essential housemates being evicted by the clueless public and people making it far/winners being crowned cause they're attractive dull men OR letting the housemates get on with it themselves and actually have to earn their place in the house and succeed on merit and not just through virtue of never speaking a word and being a man? Yeah, I know what I'd prefer.

I know it wasn't directed at me, but I've seen half of BBCan4 and the first week of BBCan1 as well as some clips of BBUSA, so I think I know the format well enough to form my own opinion on it and come up with the conclusion that I don't want BBUK to adopt the US/Can format. Don't get me wrong though, it's a brilliant format (well BBCan is anyway).

Originally Posted by Pete.

I don't see the point in having 3 BBUSA formats especially when BBUSA and BBUK run alongside each other

This is a good point. You have BBCan which runs from March till May and then a few weeks later BBUK starts and then a few weeks later BBUSA starts and they're on at the same time. Wouldn't that just get stale, having the exact same format running for 6 months straight? You're ideally watching the same thing. It may be a good format now, but that doesn't mean it will maintain its freshness as the years go by. It's the same thing with shows like IAC/XF/BGT - they all started off as good formats, but now they're just stale. And these are shows which air once a year fgs.

Originally Posted by LukeB

The uk format these days is dusty and crap so i'll be here for a change of format, one because it be more interesting and the public doesn't make stupid choices by evicting the bigger characters and two it would make me audition.

It's not like BBCan/BBUSA's eviction orders are any better most of the time. I mean from what I watched of BBCan4, the eviction order was terrible. You had people like Sharry and Loveita who didn't even make it to jury. And don't even get me started on who ended up winning the series

Plus most of the good housemates who have made it far in BBUK wouldn't have if the USA/Can format had been implemented.

Neither are perfect.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

It's not like BBCan/BBUSA's eviction orders are any better most of the time. I mean from what I watched of BBCan4, the eviction order was terrible. You had people like Sharry and Loveita who didn't even make it to jury. And don't even get me started on who ended up winning the series

Plus most of the good housemates who have made it far in BBUK wouldn't have if the USA/Can format had been implemented.

Neither are perfect.

But that's just one season though which doesn't happen on every season unlike the UK. BBCAN had 3 good winners in a row with one bad one. BBCAN is more perfect than UK and USA can be slightly better than the UK as well.

with BBCAN4 the good characters did actually get far into the game.