[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Alf

Without a freak season from Leicester, Wenger would be lifting another Premier League title above his head. Yet you want somebody else to do his job, because whoever they are, they'll apparently be better.

It's not a freak win by Leicester. They actually deserved the title. Didn't bottle it, rode their luck but only lost 3 times (albeit 2x against AFC). JUST because Leicester don't splash out on big names or have players with "sexy" names it doesn't mean they aren't worthy winners. The premier league is not the Arsenal/ Man U/ Man City/ Chelsea premier league. It's not inevitable that a big club should win title. History means nothing, having loads of fans means nothing, winning things in past means nothing, spending loadsamoney means nowt. It's about what you do now. Newcastle have more fans than Leicester. Man U have more fans than Spurs. There is no reason why Burnley or Bournemouth can't win title .

[Alf]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

It's not a freak win by Leicester. They actually deserved the title. Didn't bottle it, rode their luck but only lost 3 times (albeit 2x against AFC). JUST because Leicester don't splash out on big names or have players with "sexy" names it doesn't mean they aren't worthy winners. The premier league is not the Arsenal/ Man U/ Man City/ Chelsea premier league. It's not inevitable that a big club should win title. History means nothing, having loads of fans means nothing, winning things in past means nothing, spending loadsamoney means number. It's about what you do now. Newcastle have more fans than Leicester. Man U have more fans than Spurs. There is no reason why Burnley or Bournemouth can't win title .

I'm n saying they didn't deserve it, they've shown all the quality's needed this season, but they wouldn't have even come into the thinking of anybody at the start of the season, when asked who'd win the title? They were the outsiders of 20, so the result and their form is very surprising, against the norm, not usual, freakish.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm n saying they didn't deserve it, they've shown all the quality's needed this season, but they wouldn't have even come into the thinking of anybody at the start of the season, when asked who'd win the title? They were the outsiders of 20, so the result and their form is very surprising, against the norm, not usual, freakish.

Actually I was tipping Soton to be a "shock" title contender, I just got the team wrong

For me there is no such thing as a big shock in EPL, even Leicester winning was always feasible as there are no stand out teams. The so called big teams Arsenal, Man U, City, Chelsea are not that great or dominant compared to PSG 1970, Barcelona, and Juve. The EPL is very competitive, and in these post Fergie times the so called dominant side Man U are bang average, just another side, albeit one with loadsamoney. Anyone can beat anyone (Bournemouth beat Chelsea and Man U back to back). This would never happen in La Liga where bottom of the table sides e.g. my team Rayo Vallecano (relegated sob sob sob) have no chance of beating the big boys let alone the title. Leicester beat Man U 5-3 last season, having been losing 2-0 then 3-1. The signs were there, noone paid attention.