[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I give my view to them when asked, we only ask initially if they have decided to vote.
If they wish to ask us anything they can.
Just as in any campaign, referendum or election.

Really I am sick of this baiting of me from you,you have done it on more than one occasion,cut it out right now because really I do not even wish to converse with you, you are totally offensive and disrespectful.

What right have you to tell other members what they should and should not do in their personal lives off here.
Sheer ignorance.

I'm sorry but do not go to the (i am baiting you default option again in here) you've done this to death with The Truth and Kirk and others as your get out clause for not being able to answer simple questions posed to you from them. That IS offensive.
The fact that you feel the need to bang on peoples door to gain votes for the remain party speaks volumes. But again DO NOT implicate that me or anyone on here who is for the brexit is baiting you because that is a total cop out.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I'm sorry but do not go to the (i am baiting you default option again in here) you've done this to death with The Truth and Kirk and others as your get out clause for not being able to answer simple questions posed to you from them. That IS offensive.
The fact that you feel the need to bang on peoples door to gain votes for the remain party speaks volumes. But again DO NOT implicate that me or anyone on here who is for the brexit is baiting you because that is a total cop out.

We find the leave side knocking on doors too, you are grossly offensive.

You know what, I am sick to death of you and your nastiness, I will not discuss with you the truth or Kirk, indeed you should not be either,however I actually do have respect for Kirk anyway.

There you are have it your way, I refuse to spend another day on this forum with you.
I just hope one day you are seen for what you are as to your baiting and insults to other members.
Good riddance I say,the sooner I never have to read your prejudiced insults and disrespect to other members,especially myself, the better.

You are in my view anyway,plain ignorant.

[jaxie]

This is an interesting article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36500747

Particularly this bit: "In is in. Out is out. One has to respect the sovereignty of the British people."
For some business leaders sympathetic to Brexit - and close to the Prime Minister - this is a problem.
They agree that leaving the single market could result in significant economic headwinds.
But, they tell me, there is a solution - the UK remaining in the single market but without the need for full free movement as presently constituted.
And they are in discussions with German businesses to make the case for a different structure if the vote goes their way.
It would work like this:
Britain votes to leave the EU.
Negotiations begin on Britain's new relationship with the EU.
The UK offers to maintain at least part of its contribution to the EU budget - at present about £8.5bn a year including rebates and EU support for British agriculture and research.
In return, Britain withdraws from the free movement of people requirements but allows for a lesser "free movement of labour" which allows for workers from the EU to come to the UK with a firm job offer.
One senior City figure I spoke to who is pro-Brexit said that German businesses were "petrified" of the UK leaving the single market.
He argued that "Mittelstand" firms - the medium sized companies that are the engine room of the German economy - would demand that political leaders do a deal to allow goods unfettered access to the UK.
And vice versa.

So you see there are options and deals to be done, deals that will never be done if we don't leave, deals that are much more palatable to us as a people. If people vote remain, this will never happen. There will be no options, no negotiations, the UK will be expected to toe the line. Leave is not the land of doubt some people think it is, already negotiations are going on in secret. You can bet on that.

Other EU countries are also concerned about the economic effect on their domestic economy if the UK leaves, and, those sympathetic to Brexit believe, politicians would be under similar business pressure to "do a free trade deal".
A little noticed study in the Netherlands by the country's Bureau for Economic Analysis said this: "By 2030, the costs for the Netherlands [of Brexit] could run up to 1.2% of GDP, or 10 billion euros.
"And, if we also assume innovation is trade‐induced as recent examples in the literature have shown, then the Brexit‐related costs of 10 billion euros could increase by another 65%."
The report suggests that if the UK does vote to leave there would need to be some form of free trade agreement, although not with all the advantages of the present single market.
"It would not be able to completely restore the current full access to the internal market," the report says.
"[But] should the EU and the UK reach a free trade agreement, the economic consequences of a Brexit for the Netherlands would be reduced by 20% [in the] absence of trade tariffs for goods traded between the EU and the UK."

[bots]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I'm sorry but do not go to the (i am baiting you default option again in here) you've done this to death with The Truth and Kirk and others as your get out clause for not being able to answer simple questions posed to you from them. That IS offensive.
The fact that you feel the need to bang on peoples door to gain votes for the remain party speaks volumes. But again DO NOT implicate that me or anyone on here who is for the brexit is baiting you because that is a total cop out.

johnny, you are out of order on this. Joey is heavily involved in politics, has been for a while, and he shouldn't be criticized for that

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

johnny, you are out of order on this. Joey is heavily involved in politics, has been for a while, and he shouldn't be criticized for that

I am heavily involved in music so does that mean people cannot dismiss any composition i compose? If Joey is in fact a politician then i am in fact Donald Duck.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I am heavily involved in music so does that mean people cannot dismiss any composition i compose? If Joey is in fact a politician then i am in fact Donald Duck.

Who said he was a politician? I think you're a duck.