[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can we close this thread now. It's making me feel sick

I'm not sure reading it is compulsory.

[VanessaFeltz.]

It is obvious the attack was on LGBT people because the attack was to a gay bar.

If it was a racist attack they would attack to a place which has a big profile of that race or if they wanted to attack muslim people they would attack to a mosque. Or if they only wanted to make a regular terrorist attack they would attack to a big place.

Like i dont understand why some people are like "uggh it is just a normal terrorist attack it has nothing to do with lgbt"

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MelihV

It is obvious the attack was on LGBT people because the attack was to a gay bar.

If it was a racist attack they would attack to a place which has a big profile of that race or if they wanted to attack muslim people they would attack to a mosque. Or if they only wanted to make a regular terrorist attack they would attack to a big place.

Like i dont understand why some people are like "uggh it is just a normal terrorist attack it has nothing to do with lgbt"

So if he had attacked a straight nightclub would that make it an attack on straight people?

Why do such distinctions even matter?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apparently he visited the club about a dozen times, just because he had a gay dating app and visited the club doesn't mean he is automatically gay, he may have just been researching his target, until someone comes forward to say he was in a gay relationship with them we have no evidence to say he was. The 9/11 pilots weren't pilots, they just trained as pilots to carry out their attack, they weren't ferrying tourists and business people around the globe

The Killer knowing that Club
let him murder more
he knew his way around it.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So if he had attacked a straight nightclub would that make it an attack on straight people?

Why do such distinctions even matter?

No it wouldnt because straight people dont get targeted because they are straight, if they are targeted the reason is other than their sexual orientation.

It does matter because hate crimes are motivated by these distinctions. In a perfect world it wouldnt but the world is far from being perfect.

[Firewire]

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MelihV

No it wouldnt because straight people dont get targeted because they are straight, if they are targeted the reason is other than their sexual orientation.

It does matter because hate crimes are motivated by these distinctions. In a perfect world it wouldnt but the world is far from being perfect.

It wasn't a hate crime. It was a terrorist attack.

[sampvt]

The breaking news on tv now is that he was gay himself and used the club to pick up men. How does this bode with the gay community now. Seems like the ISIS connection has been downgraded as a cover to maybe a simple case of jealousy or a mental disorder or shame, who knows

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It wasn't a hate crime. It was a terrorist attack.

It was a hate crime. Are you just trolling because you have nothing else to do or what?

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It wasn't a hate crime. It was a terrorist attack.

It was both.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So if he had attacked a straight nightclub would that make it an attack on straight people?

Why do such distinctions even matter?

What exactly is a "straight nightclub"? Regular nightclubs don't cater specifically to heterosexual people so I'm not sure what comparison you're attempting to make.

[Shaun]

Oh lord I'm going to need to be held back if people on here start questioning what this means for the LGBT community if it's "one of their own wot dunnit".

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I'm not sure I know what point you are trying to make. The orlando one was a terror attack and all those other ones were most likely gang related crime.

America has a lot of shootings but the vast majority of them are black on black gang killings.

I think the gang issue needs addressing, rather than the guns.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it is a typical belief of the muslim community. Their Quran tells them that homosexuality is wrong.

This is why I get so confused at the LGBT community defending and campaigning for muslim refugees etc. They hate the LGBT community.

You say that like it doesn't say that in the bible too and many Americans still believe it.

You get confused due to your own ignorance on the subject.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You say that like it doesn't say that in the bible too and many Americans still believe it.

You get confused due to your own ignorance on the subject.

I agree that the bible says it too. Where did I say otherwise?

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would wager he was brought up that being gay was bad and that he was gay

just my thoughts

[ThriceShy]

Breaking News:

Arrest of accomplice expected

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/wftv...ting/340918422


I think this will put to bed the idea that he was just a gay guy in denial. Looks like it was an organised attack with more than one person.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You say that like it doesn't say that in the bible too and many Americans still believe it.

This.

Youtube video

The original video has been taken down, but there's a clip of it in that link.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i would wager he was brought up that being gay was bad and that he was gay

just my thoughts

So a gay guy did this to his own community? I wonder how that will sit with the likes of Owen Jones.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I agree that the bible says it too. Where did I say otherwise?

I think the difference between what the Koran says and what the Bible says is that it's only really fundamentalist Christians and Jews who believe that the interpretation that God hates gays is literal. Whereas it's widely believed in Islam by even moderates that homosexuality is an abomination.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I agree that the bible says it too. Where did I say otherwise?

Then why isolate one holy book as denouncing gays if they both do, also by your fuzzy logic would that not mean all Christians hate gays too?

Why would gays want to help Christians...Why are there gay Christians?

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So a gay guy did this to his own community? I wonder how that will sit with the likes of Owen Jones.

Wow.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MelihV

It is obvious the attack was on LGBT people because the attack was to a gay bar.

If it was a racist attack they would attack to a place which has a big profile of that race or if they wanted to attack muslim people they would attack to a mosque. Or if they only wanted to make a regular terrorist attack they would attack to a big place.

Like i dont understand why some people are like "uggh it is just a normal terrorist attack it has nothing to do with lgbt"

It is an LGBT attack.

Some people don't like seeing the LGBT community as victims though as it's apparently "looney left" to see it that way according to some people.

Hence why the only thing they can do is make it about Xenophobia and Racism as to why ISIS would attack a Gay Bar.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But the perp is apparently gay. So is it still an LGBT attack?

LT is this you?... :/

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It wasn't a hate crime. It was a terrorist attack.

Can't it be both?