[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I would, a decent honest man

You're being disingenuous; you know fine well that he lied his chinless face off to get the result he wanted.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.

You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.

#notinmyname

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.

we're not talking about sturgeon or any of the remain campaigners, or if he's "more" honest than the others. We're talking about whether Farage individually, aside from comparison, is an "honest man", or a bare-faced liar who knowingly lied to his own supporters.

He is the latter. He backtracked on something fundamental to winning over the hearts of voters, not 24 hours after achieving his life long goal. Unless you are trying to tell me that he didn't know that the figures were fudged days, weeks, MONTHS earlier... Then the man has shown himself to be a liar. Full stop. Pointing out that Nicola Sturgeon likes to pile on the bull**** now and then too doesn't change that. I did point out that I believe this to be true of all politicians by nature. I'm just oh-so-pleased that we now have concrete evidence to cite when people ludicrously claim that Farage is somehow different...

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.

Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.

Ahh, so now we're rewriting history and pretending that Farage never suggested that EU millions would go to the NHS. In fact he was saying it would be privatised all along!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahh, so now we're rewriting history and pretending that Farage never suggested that EU millions would go to the NHS. In fact he was saying it would be privatised all along!

Let's not forget when he promised to resign if the last election didn't go well for him and he didn't.

He has a history of lying.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Let's not forget when he promised to resign if the last election didn't go well for him and he didn't.

He has a history of lying.

the guy is an idiot. He had conceded defeat prior to a vote being counted, he then accused Cameron of fixing the result, before then claiming victory, for a project he wasn't an official representative for

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Let's not forget when he promised to resign if the last election didn't go well for him and he didn't.

He has a history of lying.

Nigel Farage is to remain as UKIP leader after the party rejected his resignation.

Mr Farage had previously said he would stand down after failing to win a seat in last week's general election.

But the party said there was "overwhelmingly evidence" that UKIP members did not want Mr Farage to go.

Writing in the Telegraph, Mr Farage said he had been "reluctant", but decided he "owed it to the party to stay" on as leader.

Source: various



so looks like he isnt the liar but someone else is?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.

He reiterated the £350m figure emblazoned on the side of the bus countless times across many debates, that in itself was the biggest lie which most faux patriot brexiteers believed.

ergo he is a liar.

[billy123]

Just for the record i think Farage is a wanktickling bigot of the highest order and a disgrace to the leave campaign but anybody that thinks that most people that wanted to leave share his mentality is as much as a bigot as he is.

[Northern Monkey]

Not remainers turning into remoaners?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not remainers turning into remoaners?

They seem to want everything to go wrong with the UK just to vindicate them and soothe the fact they lost?

crazy

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They seem to want everything to go wrong with the UK just to vindicate them and soothe the fact they lost?

crazy

Want? No. Wanting and expecting are not the same.

I said on another thread that I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong, I just don't see it happening.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not remainers turning into remoaners?

I proclaim you king of the soundbite, have you ever considered writing straplines for 'the sun'?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I proclaim you king of the soundbite, have you ever considered writing straplines for 'the sun'?

The sun isn't ready for zingers like that, come on now.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

When questioned about the Leave campaign's assertion that leaving the EU would free up £350m a week extra to spend on the NHS, Mr Duncan Smith said the NHS would receive "the lion's share".
"It is not a promise broken, I never said that during the course of the election," he said.
"What I said was we would be able to spend the lion's share of that money, now the government is now able to spend, so people can say that there is more money available now for the NHS, categorically more, which is what's required and that's the key point."




Asked if Ukip leader Nigel Farage would be involved in the cross-party exit negotiations with Brussels, Mr Duncan Smith suggested the party's sole MP Douglas Carswell would be consulted.
"There is a Ukip MP who is part of that process in a parliamentary sense, and I'm very happy to discuss... with Ukip about what their expectations are, but the government itself, right now, actually dictates how this will happen," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633595


IDS taking some control

[joeysteele]

The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.

Joey I predict you will be a tory by the end of this year so you have to soften your stance on him a little

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Joey I predict you will be a tory by the end of this year so you have to soften your stance on him a little

I'm pedicting Joey will be UKIP.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Joey I predict you will be a tory by the end of this year so you have to soften your stance on him a little

I am a Conservative in part, I do believe the Conservatives are good with the economy,I can see a lot of good in the Conservative party and know they have really good, consensus people among their ranks,as all parties do.

I just have new priorities which experience has drawn me to.
For me because I believe now that Labour has a heart and would now do far more for the sick, disabled and most vulnerable,(more than they ever did,when they could have, to protect them when in govt).
I have though set myself with that party now.

However, I now do feel let down myself by Corbyn,I didn't vote for him as leader.
I also feel all supporters of parties should be served by one of the best candidates and leader available and for me Corbyn is not one of the best now.

Had I lived in Scotland now,it would have been the SNP I was drawn to there, I admired Alex Salmond and now do also Nicola Sturgeon and near all the SNP have done in govt.

There is good and not so good all over all parties, I can see that and look for that good.
It is the far extremes I dislike as to all of them.

However as to Ian Duncan Smith, I have witnessed way too many people who suffered at the hands of his policies, so for me he is a certain write off.

Finally, Nigel Farage, for me he is the one who who really over decades fought for and got this referendum.

For me, he should have led the leave campaign, being the only real unwavering credible figure of same.
Clearly I do not agree with him as to that or other policy but I do think his sincerity to that cause can never be questioned justifiably.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am a Conservative in part, I do believe the Conservatives are good with the economy,I can see a lot of good in the Conservative party and know they have really good, consensus people among their ranks,as all parties do.

I just have new priorities which experience has drawn me to.
For me because I believe now that Labour has a heart and would now do far more for the sick, disabled and most vulnerable,(more than they ever did,when they could have, to protect them when in govt).
I have though set myself with that party now.

However, I now do feel let down myself by Corbyn,I didn't vote for him as leader.
I also feel all supporters of parties should be served by one of the best candidates and leader available and for me Corbyn is not one of the best now.

Had I lived in Scotland now,it would have been the SNP I was drawn to there, I admired Alex Salmond and now do also Nicola Sturgeon and near all the SNP have done in govt.

There is good and not so good all over all parties, I can see that and look for that good.
It is the far extremes I dislike as to all of them.

However as to Ian Duncan Smith, I have witnessed way too many people who suffered at the hands of his policies, so for me he is a certain write off.

Finally, Nigel Farage, for me he is the one who who really over decades fought for and got this referendum.

For me, he should have led the leave campaign, being the only real unwavering credible figure of same.
Clearly I do not agree with him as to that or other policy but I do think his sincerity to that cause can never be questioned justifiably.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.

I was about to say, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. IDS of all people

[arista]

[MP Douglas Carswell would be consulted.
"There is a Ukip MP who is part of that process in a parliamentary sense"]

Yes LT
he is the one MP
who can consult
with the new Conservative Leave PM.

[Northern Monkey]

Scotland should have another referendum if they think they could actually survive outside the UK.