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Old 26-06-2016, 03:00 PM #1951
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well look how many voted for Corbyn and look at what he turned out to be

What did he turn out to be? Your smiley is a bit vague on that.
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A liar that as misled the gullible and has expressed a desire to dismantle the NHS which plenty of UK citizens rely on to live? What a hero.
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You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.
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“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

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Patriotism is a foolish concept that exists only to shame and discredit anyone who dares think differently.

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Not remainers turning into remoaners?

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When questioned about the Leave campaign's assertion that leaving the EU would free up £350m a week extra to spend on the NHS, Mr Duncan Smith said the NHS would receive "the lion's share".
"It is not a promise broken, I never said that during the course of the election," he said.
"What I said was we would be able to spend the lion's share of that money, now the government is now able to spend, so people can say that there is more money available now for the NHS, categorically more, which is what's required and that's the key point."




Asked if Ukip leader Nigel Farage would be involved in the cross-party exit negotiations with Brussels, Mr Duncan Smith suggested the party's sole MP Douglas Carswell would be consulted.
"There is a Ukip MP who is part of that process in a parliamentary sense, and I'm very happy to discuss... with Ukip about what their expectations are, but the government itself, right now, actually dictates how this will happen," he said.

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A liar that as misled the gullible and has expressed a desire to dismantle the NHS which plenty of UK citizens rely on to live? What a hero.
We are referring to Farage - NOT Fuhrer Juncker and his underlings Cameron and Osborne.
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Not remainers turning into remoaners?




They seem to want everything to go wrong with the UK just to vindicate them and soothe the fact they lost?

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Patriotism is a foolish concept that exists only to shame and discredit anyone who dares think differently.
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Quoting you own posts how cool.
quoting my own post to contextualise where the content of the article originates from...

Being poor at spelling and grammar how cool
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Patriotism is a foolish concept that exists only to shame and discredit anyone who dares think differently.

So you are having a go at the Irish at the Euros and the Welsh?


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You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.
we're not talking about sturgeon or any of the remain campaigners, or if he's "more" honest than the others. We're talking about whether Farage individually, aside from comparison, is an "honest man", or a bare-faced liar who knowingly lied to his own supporters.

He is the latter. He backtracked on something fundamental to winning over the hearts of voters, not 24 hours after achieving his life long goal. Unless you are trying to tell me that he didn't know that the figures were fudged days, weeks, MONTHS earlier... Then the man has shown himself to be a liar. Full stop. Pointing out that Nicola Sturgeon likes to pile on the bull**** now and then too doesn't change that. I did point out that I believe this to be true of all politicians by nature. I'm just oh-so-pleased that we now have concrete evidence to cite when people ludicrously claim that Farage is somehow different...
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The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.
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Not remainers turning into remoaners?

I proclaim you king of the soundbite, have you ever considered writing straplines for 'the sun'?
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The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.
Joey I predict you will be a tory by the end of this year so you have to soften your stance on him a little
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The day I ever listen to or believe Ian Duncan Smith on anything at all is a day that will never come for me.
I was about to say, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. IDS of all people
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Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.
Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.
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I proclaim you king of the soundbite, have you ever considered writing straplines for 'the sun'?
The sun isn't ready for zingers like that, come on now.
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Joey I predict you will be a tory by the end of this year so you have to soften your stance on him a little
I'm pedicting Joey will be UKIP.
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We are referring to Farage - NOT Fuhrer Juncker and his underlings Cameron and Osborne.
My comment still stands, patriotism is a dangerous thing.
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They seem to want everything to go wrong with the UK just to vindicate them and soothe the fact they lost?

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Want? No. Wanting and expecting are not the same.

I said on another thread that I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong, I just don't see it happening.
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[MP Douglas Carswell would be consulted.
"There is a Ukip MP who is part of that process in a parliamentary sense"]

Yes LT
he is the one MP
who can consult
with the new Conservative Leave PM.
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So you are having a go at the Irish at the Euros and the Welsh?


I'm having a go at anyone who lets their patriotism blind them to sense and reason.
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Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.
Ahh, so now we're rewriting history and pretending that Farage never suggested that EU millions would go to the NHS. In fact he was saying it would be privatised all along!
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Don't keep using lies please. That wasn't Farage's bus - that was Boris's and the Vote Leave campaign's bus. Nigel was excluded from the Leave campaign but is being made a scapegoat for that statement.
He reiterated the £350m figure emblazoned on the side of the bus countless times across many debates, that in itself was the biggest lie which most faux patriot brexiteers believed.

ergo he is a liar.
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