[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've not said anything that contradicts what I've said. You hate her for her job on the outside not because of what she's brings to the house.

Also, yaaay, slut shaming!

Oh I really can't be arsed to repeat myself....if you haven't read what I very clearly said then don't waste my time please

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Oh no mate, don't fall for his games....he is evil and he must be stopped

I tell ya something, if Georgina ever gets boo'd he will disappear from her side faster than a bullet from a gun.

okay i don't really trust Sam 100%, but at the moment he's fine



anyway if he does that, i think he will get the group against him

[Babayaro.]

Not the B word

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Oh I really can't be arsed to repeat myself....if you haven't read what I very clearly said then don't waste my time please

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

i can't blame Chelsea for trying to do that, i think he really doesn't like Jayne



after all it's a game

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Let's all have a good old sing-along:

CALUMNY JAYNE

She just blew in from the Kinky City
She's old and knackered and ain't so pretty,
But I'll tell ya what she has got -
An that is guile.

She is putting on an act,
And that's a plain and simple fact.
Just listen to Chelsea -
He ought to know.

She tried to snare that wealthy fella
But he rejected the 'Kiss And Teller'
And good old Chelsea -
Told her where to go.

Jaynee's life in the kinky city
was sordid, base, and worthy of pity
'Cos she slept with rich guys -
Yes siree.

Shacked up with guys for loot and glory
Then sold the tabloids her dirty story
Not just one time -
But all THREE.

She says all those 'kiss and tell' fees
Went to several charities,
But I ain't buying that -
No siree.

Now she claims to be a 'Private Eye'
Willing to trap your cheating guy
But ain't that too rich -
From a cheating bitch?

She's done more than one Private Sexual Show'
And made Porno Pics in explicit pose.
And if you want proof hun -
Just look in 'The Sun'.

She has Rich fools eyes a popping
All 'knickers off and trousers dropping'
But she don't turn me on -
No WAY siree.

And I ain't taken in by a well known slaggy
Now doing an act as 'Kim and Aggie'
All you might be -
But hell no, not me.

It's one thing a girl being clean and fussy
But another when that girl's a two bit hussy
Who should worry about 'How Clean Is Her Pussy' -
Yes siree.

Excellent! And just so funny!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Excellent! And just so funny!

Kirk is such a nice member and a good friend of me, but i also find his song funny

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

Well said

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

[Nicky91]

i find Chelsea quite funny, just speaking in his defence, i want interesting housemates to stay in the house, and the boring ones can go, like Evelyn and Laura and hopefully Alex, i find Alex so boring

[Crimson Dynamo]

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by hot2go

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

My post contradicted nothing. In fact you're incredibly hypocritical since you keep bringing up Jayne's past but you're keeping quiet about the fact that Chelsea is a scam artist that almost drove someone to suicide.

Jayne's past kind of pales in comparison to that, don't you think?

Jayne threatened to expose Chelsea but didn't go through with it, Chelsea spilled all her secrets without a second thought in order to hurt her yet Jayne's supposedly worse? Again, it was Chelsea who brought the Kiss and Tell stuff into the house, not Jayne.

The difference between Andrew and Marco is that they were twats inside and outside of the house. Jayne's one of the nicest people in there.

People didn't need outside reasons to get rid of Marco, the fact that he strung along Laura based on lies, threatened security and generally acted like a spoilt brat was enough for people to hate him.

As for your last sentence, I'll point you back to the top of my post. You think Jayne is the devil for embracing her sexuality yet you're okay with Chelsea being a scammer that almost drove someone to suicide? You're okay with him blatantly bullying Jayne in the house?

Chelsea is a **** inside and outside of that house.

[hot2go]

Marco didn't string anyone along...he said he had a hall pass and it was true....He said he had a fiancé and it was true....Laura knew exactly where she stood ...and she loved it.

Chelsea didn't lay into Jayne until she threatened to hurt his family....he didn't even know she was in there at that time and more importantly he couldn't defend himself because it was all behind his back.

Anything he sees fit to do to her afterwards is perfectly understandable....he's a family man and a business man who works on the philosophy that if someone hits you then you hit them back twice as hard.....Jayne threw the first punch...she deserves everything she's now getting.

As for Marco, anyone who thought he shud be kicked out because they thought he was a twat have every right to think that if they didn't like him.

Problem I have, is with the hypocrites who thought Marco and Andrew shud be evicted because they offended their moral code and because of their private lives.....if those same people support Jayne then all that stuff that was preached from their moral high ground is bollox.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

"Too feckin true John. That old tart only came in the bleedin' house to cause me grief... An now she's whinging about me givin her some of the old wellie back?

As I was saying to one of my china's as we woz bombing dahn the Old Kent Road in my Ferrari; 'Never start a war my old son unless you're tooled up to win it'.

'An if you piss into the wind mate, you only get your own back'. Or as my old muvver used to say - gawd rest her soul - 'A tart in a jam ain't a jam tart'

Know wot I mean John?"

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

"Too feckin true John. That old tart only came in the bleedin' house to cause me grief... An now she's whinging about me givin her some of the old wellie back?

As I was saying to one of my china's as we woz bombing dahn the Old Kent Road in my Ferrari; 'Never start a war my old son unless you're tooled up to win it'.

'An if you piss into the wind mate, you only get your own back'. Or as my old muvver used to say - gawd rest her soul - 'A tart in a jam ain't a jam tart'

Know wot I mean John?"

Love your homage to this BB Legend

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I wouldn't say she is being bullied though Chelsea definitely has a little personal vendetta going on, I think Jayne is equally guilty of bias in their little whatever the relationship is. It was Jayne after all who picked him to be the biggest horror and got him sent to the others so picking on each other is fairly tit for tat. It was a task and Chelsea was one of those choosing who was least so I think it's pretty clear she was being targeted by someone with an axe to grind, I think she could man up a bit and take it for what it was.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Marco didn't string anyone along...he said he had a hall pass and it was true....He said he had a fiancé and it was true....Laura knew exactly where she stood ...and she loved it.

Chelsea didn't lay into Jayne until she threatened to hurt his family....he didn't even know she was in there at that time and more importantly he couldn't defend himself because it was all behind his back.

Anything he sees fit to do to her afterwards is perfectly understandable....he's a family man and a business man who works on the philosophy that if someone hits you then you hit them back twice as hard.....Jayne threw the first punch...she deserves everything she's now getting.

As for Marco, anyone who thought he shud be kicked out because they thought he was a twat have every right to think that if they didn't like him.

Problem I have, is with the hypocrites who thought Marco and Andrew shud be evicted because they offended their moral code and because of their private lives.....if those same people support Jayne then all that stuff that was preached from their moral high ground is bollox.

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

okay, but everyone has got a different opinion

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

100% agree.I cant wait when jayne finally exposes Chelsea for who he is as a person.I wish there was expose task.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

I agree. I actually find her character in part entertaining and at times quite kind and thoughtful- as in her support of Hughie. Yes, she can be an irritant to them, like a little fly buzzing around, but their responses to that can be quite amusing to watch. I also find her rants really funny to watch, so I'm quite liking her as a housemate.

Chelsea has definitely spent much more time referring to her life outside the house than she has, I think in an attempt to turn others against her and get her evicted- he strikes me as a man afraid of what she could actually reveal about him, and hence his desperate need to have her gone.

I actually think there's a lot more of this story to emerge than just the one-sided version we are getting from Chelsea- I would almost bet he has done something he doesn't want revealed to his current partner or to the outside world, and what we are seeing from him is panic. Remember too, that he and Jayne seemed to be largely okay with each other until Natalie starting suggesting she had made all sorts of negative comments about him, when, in fact, as viewers we'd only really seen her say what a lovely man he was.

And I'm not, for one minute, saying she is flawless and has done nothing wrong in life- just that I don't think she is as horrific as some people seem to be suggesting and that she has provided more entertainment than quite a few other housemates.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

Good post. I don't particularly like Jayne but Chelseas behaviour towards her has been revolting. He's a horrible, horrible man

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

Agreed. And if he can blame her for his own actions, he feels he somehow frees himself from any responsibility. An attempt at some damage limitation maybe?

[Denver]

she deserved every last bit of it

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

I'm getting bored of what you're saying cause I think it's conveniently only part factual .... And others are prob getting bored of me clogging up the thread with my responses, so this will be my last one to you.

Marco didn't lie about the conditions of his hall pass, he and his girlfriend had diff interpretations of what the pass meant....if he wasn't clear then he was not alone, no one was clear, not even the person who issued the pass.

Marco didn't string Laura along....she did that to him.......everyone was frustrated with her stopping it then going back for more...
She did it over and over again..
When she said, day one, she would def f-ck him, she new he was engaged with a hall pass.
When she had sex with him, day 4, she knew he was engaged with a hall pass.
When the terminology was later phrased in a different way to open relationship she continued to have sex games with him and continued to go back to himfrom more right up till the day he left. He never lead her any where.

He wasn't a generally unpleasant guy, he was a generally annoying guy...huge difference
Nothing unpleasant or spiteful or vindictive or two faced about him in that house at all...ever.

Empty threats on the night Andrew and Ryan entered the house were made by a few people and a few more since ...none of them have been carried out cause mostly they are heat of the moment, knee jerk reactions to feeling threatened. And very very typical of all the previous BB seasons.

Chelsea has done nothing in the house to make me dislike him. Retaliating to Jaynes blackmail attempts do not warrent a reason for me to dislike him, only a reason to agree with him. I pay no attention to anything he or any of the others did before they entered the house...I didn't with Andrew, I didn't with Marco, and I didn't with Jayne until she chose to drag her past into the house with her...I didn't go looking for it, she presented it to me....on a plate.

And finally, for you to say that no one thought Marco should have been thrown out or evicted from the house is so ridiculously untrue it dimishes everything else you've said. By the time Marco was prematurely robbed of his place in the house I can think of only 3 other people on the entire thread who wanted him to stay.

Marco has gone, he can't come back.... now I think the rules that were used against him shoukd be applied to some of the others...starting with Charlie getting the same warning Marco got for harassment .... watching Jayne experience how it feels to be a target herself ....and watching some others experience what it feels like to be isolated just for being different, like Marco and Andy have.