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Originally Posted by arista

Yes they will


Minus Joey , though

Minus Joey yes, I have come to support strongly the Labour party but I do have Conservative roots still.
I know there are good and consensus politicians in all parties.

I did not vote for Corbyn as leader myself and even now I would still go for Andy Burnham but he is heading off likely next year too.

I do have strong agreement with Livia on this one, that Hilary Benn would be a more probable really good leader and it may come about that he 'has' to be the one to lead the taking of Corbyn on now,no matter what he says today.

My preferred choice would be someone totally new however, a man like Dan Jarvis for instance.

We need to have elected as leaders, politicians who unite and not divide,the new leader of the Conservative party to come is just as vital as whatever comes about in Labour.
Which is why for the Conservative party I would like to see someone like Matt Hancock there.

For me both Labour and the Conservative party have to really look forward and try to gain back the support they have both lost.
If they do not make that effort, then even more of the combined vote between them will end up being eroded.

I have waited long enough for Corbyn to really inspire, I am still pretty mad at him for this and he did do so, virtually abandon Labour party workers running their feet off trying to win the EU campaign for 'remain'.

Who at every turn had to deal with some really negative comments he had made or try to explain his silence.
We got far more support from the Conservatives and Lib Dems than we got from him.

I say again, there comes a time when enough really is enough.