[GiRTh]

Forgive me if I dont get excited about a 19 year old who's never played in Europe.

[GiRTh]

He's scored two international goals, against Panama and Haiti.

We'll probably get this guy send him out on loan for a couple of seasons then sell him at age 22. Like so many before him.

22 goals in 78 appearance in the ultra competitive Brazilian league. Did he score those goal in regional or national league?

[Drew.]

70+ apps, 20+ goals playing as a striker/out wide and an international at the age of 19 is impressive, whatever league it is. He's probably the biggest name to come from Brazil since Neymar, nobody at 19 is the finished product, he's got a ton of talent and potential.

I'm against the idea of buying young players for the future, i want players to come into our squad now and to make a difference but Barbosa is potentially both an instant impact and a future star.

[Drew.]

Plus he just screams being one of those south american players where an average European side picks him up for pennies and ends up becoming a Ł40m+ player after a few years. Suarez, Alexis, Dybala.. theres a list of them. Would love us to take that risk with one

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

70+ apps, 20+ goals playing as a striker/out wide and an international at the age of 19 is impressive, whatever league it is. He's probably the biggest name to come from Brazil since Neymar, nobody at 19 is the finished product, he's got a ton of talent and potential.

I'm against the idea of buying young players for the future, i want players to come into our squad now and to make a difference but Barbosa is potentially both an instant impact and a future star.

After so many teenagers with massive potential have been sold I want Arsenal to change this transfer policy. Its time to call it and say it hasn't worked. So even though this guys stats are kind of impressive go and look at Walcotts stats at 19; his stats were ridiculous at that age. Sorry even though he looks good I'm not interested in this type of player anymore so cant excited about another kid that Arsenal are interested in.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Plus he just screams being one of those south american players where an average European side picks him up for pennies and ends up becoming a Ł40m+ player after a few years. Suarez, Alexis, Dybala.. theres a list of them. Would love us to take that risk with one

Or Carlos Vela or Denilson etc. Both had massive potential both sold in their mid twenties.

[Drew.]

Both of those two were totally unproven players with no experience of major first team football when they joined, they were much bigger gambles than Barbosa would be. He's in a different category altogether

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Both of those two were totally unproven players with no experience of major first team football when they joined, they were much bigger gambles than Barbosa would be. He's in a different category altogether

Denilson was a first team regular by the time he was twenty.

[GiRTh]

One thing though, apparently Gabigol - I even hate his nickname - is being looked at by Man U and Chelsea. That rules us out then.

[Drew.]

Yeah but when they joined both were unknown and they were two huge gambles and examples of Arsene signing the unknown and trying to make them into the players he wanted which is a whole different situation to what it would be if we signed Barbosa

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Yeah but when they joined both were unknown and they were two huge gambles and examples of Arsene signing the unknown and trying to make them into the players he wanted which is a whole different situation to what it would be if we signed Barbosa

IF he's well known he'll cost abit of money, I've seen 30 million being touted. Are we gonna pay that for a 19 year old who's never played in Europe? I doubt it.

So many things wrong with this transfer.

[GiRTh]

Arsenal make offer for Brazilian wonderkid: Ł41m release clause to get around

41 million Not a chance in hell are we paying even half that for him. Makes me now ask why are we even trying if we have this release clause to get around.

[Drew.]

No chance, he's worth the risk but not a Ł30m+ risk

I'm going off this, so if it's true then definitely worth the gamble

"ESPN Brazil: Gabigol's release clause is €50m but there's a clause that allows him to leave for as little as €18m. Arsenal's offer is higher"

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

No chance, he's worth the risk but not a Ł30m+ risk

I'm going off this, so if it's true then definitely worth the gamble

"ESPN Brazil: Gabigol's release clause is €50m but there's a clause that allows him to leave for as little as €18m. Arsenal's offer is higher"

Now it makes a bit more sense. His stats are good but personally I balk at the thought of yet another teenager with potential. However if we get him then, from what I've seen, he does look like a talent.

[Brother Leon]

Gabriel Jesus is better.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Yes please

he will struggle to get a work permit

[Denver]

disappointed in this Mane deal overpaying by Ł10 million yes he is talented and premier league proven who will help our team a lot but he also has a major attitude problem which could hinder the team.

[Denver]

Move as Moussa Dembele moves to Celtic from Fulham on a 4 year deal

[GiRTh]

Crystal Palace agree €38m fee with Marseille for Michy Batshuayi

Looks like we aint getting Batshuayi. Now we are being outbid by Palace. How the f**ck have palace got more money that us. WTF is going on?

[Shaun]

In addition to them rejecting a Leicester Ł25m bid for Troy Deeney about a month ago, Watford have now rejected a Chinese club offer of THIRTY EIGHT MILLION for IGHALO.

Which raises many many questions:

a) Do China know what football is?
b) Do Watford know there are other strikers?
c) How rich are PL clubs now?
d) If Nolito is ~20m and Ighalo is over 38m, is there a chance I could convince a Chinese fella to buy a packet of Walkers off me for Ł53,000?

[Drew.]

Crystal Palace sign Andros Townsend for Ł13m and French goalkeeper Steve Mandanda.. great bit of business

Manchester City sign Nolito for Ł13.8m

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Crystal Palace sign Andros Townsend for Ł13m and French goalkeeper Steve Mandanda.. great bit of business

Manchester City sign Nolito for Ł13.8m

Bargain at that price.

[Drew.]

Think he's 30 in a few months, i guess it's a good price in today's market but i expected City to be signing better players than him

[Denver]

Man City dont need him and will hardly use him so he has just ruined his career

[Drew.]

PSG have signed Ben Arfa, great signing, Couldn't get a game at Hull and now at PSG, crazy journey he's been on these past few years