[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But even man-of-the-people Farage has admitted that we're going to end up on a private health scheme anyway?

And well we may, but only if we allow the neo-liberals to continue with this . Its now for the people of Britain to stop this onslaught. We will now have a government that are servants to the people of Britain.

As usual I understand what you're saying in theory DR... but there are some glaring flaws here. In a free-trading, open, globalised, competitive economy we are now competing against a number of rising economic powerhouses who treat their citizens like disposable work-horses. No room for creativity, little time for recreation or family, no freedom to simply enjoy life, harsh and stifling education systems that have little care for the psychological or social wellbeing of the children in them. That is what we are "competing with".

To be blunt, it's like you voted for an idealised vision of an independent Britain that doesn't exist and will never exist.

We buy more from the EU than sell into it and so there would be riots on the streets of countries like Italy and Germany if free trade agreements didn’t remain in place. Imagine what it would do to their economy if we took our billions and spent it elsewhere. It just won’t happen. We are the 5th largest economy on earth which is pretty incredible considering our size.

So the EU have threatened that we will have no say and will be subject to all sorts of stifling regulations. China haven’t been stifled by regulations and neither has America. Norway and Switzerland haven’t been stifled by EU regulations because they, just like us, are in a free trading, open, globalized economy.

As for immigration. Immigrants outside the EU are restricted from working here. The skills they could bring to this country are held back by a mountain of EU red tape. Whilst the EU may allow any amount of unskilled workers in from the EU, it constantly turns away skilled workers from outside the EU. Its time that changed because if we want our economy to succeed then we need to be sourcing our skill sets from around the globe.

I've got a lot of respect for you TS. I know how passionate you feel about what's happened. Whilst we may disagree on this huge change, we should both agree that we are wanting the same outcome... a fairer and more successful Britain.