[Shaun]

Fail to see how there's any proof of it being an attempt to mock Andy's good news; they all seemed to be happy for him. Doing a copycat joke of something isn't necessarily demeaning it, and if you're that insecure about your engagement then that's your issue. Personally, I'd consider Andy being unappreciative of the engagement ring as more of an alarm bell than a joke between two annoying housemates.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Fail to see how there's any proof of it being an attempt to mock Andy's good news; they all seemed to be happy for him. Doing a copycat joke of something isn't necessarily demeaning it, and if you're that insecure about your engagement then that's your issue. Personally, I'd consider Andy being unappreciative of the engagement ring as more of an alarm bell than a joke between two annoying housemates.

Yes! Everyone keeps talking about this amazing sense of great judgement Andy but he often speaks before he thinks. Hughie & Ryan had no role in in minimizing his engagement. In fact, it was him who minimized it by going into such a ridiculous rant for reality TV. He could've rode that high and bolstering his own morale, then gave his views a great platform to open discussion about gay rights. I think even the rest of the house would've been on board if he was inclusive about it. Instead, he is often excluding people from discussions due to his own conceit and arrogance. If he were actually so wise, he would've realized they're all on the same team then and he could've used that to build bridges, but no, he's too busy being a re-narrating reactionary fool. His discussions are always him versus everyone else... he obviously has some kind of inferiority complex... it's boring.

And to think for a bit there I really thought he had a chance to be a comeback hero...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yes! Everyone keeps talking about this amazing sense of great judgement Andy but he often speaks before he thinks. Hughie & Ryan had no role in in minimizing his engagement. In fact, it was him who minimized it by going into such a ridiculous rant for reality TV. He could've rode that high and bolstering his own morale, then gave his views a great platform to open discussion about gay rights. I think even the rest of the house would've been on board if he was inclusive about it. Instead, he is often excluding people from discussions due to his own conceit and arrogance. If he were actually so wise, he would've realized they're all on the same team then and he could've used that to build bridges, but no, he's too busy being a re-narrating reactionary fool. His discussions are always him versus everyone else... he obviously has some kind of inferiority complex... it's boring.

And to think for a bit there I really thought he had a chance to be a comeback hero...

Yes, he's so boring that he has us talking about him at 4am in the morning and is often the main topic of discussion around here. I haven't heard anyone say he has an amazing sense of great judgement or wisdom, as you proclaim. We that like him say he has his own principles and he is often socially awkward. He's a normal enough, flawed but kind enough soul who is more like the kind of HM you would get in the days when BB was about the diversity of the man in the street and not about dim witted attention seeking fame*****s who flaunt themselves about mindlessly half naked and having sex while looking to see if the camera is catching the moment. Not about fake tans and fake boobs and who can shout the loudest and be the most dramatic in the DR by practically having a put - on nervous breakdown.
He's causing drama but not in the old hat anything - goes ways of recent times. He's refreshingly different and that's why we think he's a great HM. He doesn't have to have a showmance, screech like a banshee, walk around shirtless, or be Mr. Nice Guy who makes it to the end by doing fuke all. He just has to be Andy.