[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched that film Straight Oughta Compton a couple of days ago and that touched on the Rodney King murder, that was way back in 1991 and it seems not to have changed at all since then, it's shameful really. What is the solution? I understand your frustration with the it

Thank you, it's just so sad. And now people will use this latest incident to further look away from where the anger stems from. Many murderers today get their motives looked into which they conclude is mental disability. Will they care to look into where this anger stems from and actually do something? Doubt it. Of course I absolutely disagree with killing cops.

The solution is that they need to listen and actually acknowledge that here is a problem with racial profiling and how cops treats people differently. Heck if we go as far back as the OJ case even the cop on trial was caught on tape saying that he targeted black people and at times planted evidence against them. It's a thing. It's the same reason many racists don't like to be called racists, they don't like to acknowledge that part of them because it makes them a bad person. Cops and people like to believe that they're all good cops and that they truly are there to serve the people for your best interest. Acknowledging this completely destroys that serving your country slogan and they hate it. Doesn't mean they're all bad, but when they're bad they're bad and those cops protecting them are also bad.

[kirklancaster]

I have said this before elsewhere, but America has a huge bifurcated problem with these murders by cops.

The first is OPPORTUNITY.

Paedophiles flock towards jobs in Children's homes, Embezzlers towards Accountancy, and mentally unbalanced, racial extremists gravitate towards institutions where they can vent their hatred, and there is NO better institution to afford them that opportunity than a Police Department.

Once in, the covert racist may be surprised to quickly discover that he is 'at home', and that there are either other racists just like himself on the job who are tolerated, or that the ENTIRE department is racist in thought and word, if not deed.

There is NO basement level at which standards stop once they start to descend, and what was once shocking to yesteryear's society becomes the accepted norm to a subsequent generation, and 'so on and so forth'.

A long time ago, I used to play squash, and I remember on one occasion, being surprised by a group of men in the locker room who were laughing and howling as they told each other 'racist' jokes. The joke-telling and laughter stopped as I entered - probably because I am coloured - but it was NOT the jokes which surprised me, but the fact that NONE of the members concerned were 'low brows', but all well educated, 'well off' types who had NEVER hinted at any kind of 'racism' in the couple of years I had known them.

This 'locker room' racism, may be 'milder' to some participants than others, but it is often endemic wherever males congregate in institutions, and if nothing else, in the twisted mind of an extreme racist, it empowers him, gives him a sense of fraternity - however false that perception may be.

In some Police Departments in the USA, as the more 'moral' officers leave and new recruits are either racist or are corrupted by the prevailing 'locker room' mentality into accepting racism - over generations - that racism can 'creep out' of the 'locker room' and overtly become the status quo.

It is NOT unusual, therefore, for any combination of of two or three extremely racist officers, or two extremely racist officers and one accepting officer, to be out on patrol together.

Thus, we have the recipe for a tragedy.

"Hey boy - that nogger's tail light is out. Let's teach this mother fecker a lesson".

We all know the untenable truth of what happens next, but here's the other prong of that bifurcated problem:

APATHY.

Or as some cases attest; COMPLICITY.

In any country - there must be both a deterrent AND a punishment element to any sentencing for a crime, in order to dissuade perpetrators from committing that crime, but it seems from all the evidence of many years, that when it comes to the murder of black citizens by racist cops, that the USA does NOT even recognize that crime - in diametric opposition to the rest of the world.

THE USA AUTHORITIES MUST NOW FACE UP TO THE VERY REAL, VERY OVERT FACT, THAT RACIST COPS ARE VENTING THEIR HATRED OF BLACK PEOPLE USING POLICE ISSUE GUNS AS A WEAPON, AND THEIR UNIFORMS AND BADGES AS SHIELDS.

A LEGAL police gun and badge has replaced an ILLEGAL low overhanging branch and a noose as the racist extremists most favoured method of murdering the blackman.

It is sad, shocking but true, and UNTIL the American authorities RECOGNISE that these racist murders are occurring and publicly ADMIT as much, and start to PUNISH the perpetrators with lengthy jail sentences, then the terrible events unfolding right now in Dallas will be replicated all over America.

For blacks to vent their years of bitter frustration by randomly killing innocent police officers, is WRONG - no matter how understandable may be their bitter frustration - but the fingers of EVERY police department chief who has turned a blind eye or actually been complicit in these 'Murders of Blacks by Cops', are on those snipers triggers too.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I have said this before elsewhere, but America has a huge bifurcated problem with these murders by cops.

The first is OPPORTUNITY.

Paedophiles flock towards jobs in Children's homes, Embezzlers towards Accountancy, and mentally unbalanced, racial extremists gravitate towards institutions where they can vent their hatred, and there is NO better institution to afford them that opportunity than a Police Department.

Once in, the covert racist may be surprised to quickly discover that he is 'at home', and that there are either other racists just like himself on the job who are tolerated, or that the ENTIRE department is racist in thought and word, if not deed.

There is NO basement level at which standards stop once they start to descend, and what was once shocking to yesteryear's society becomes the accepted norm to a subsequent generation, and 'so on and so forth'.

A long time ago, I used to play squash, and I remember on one occasion, being surprised by a group of men in the locker room who were laughing and howling as they told each other 'racist' jokes. The joke-telling and laughter stopped as I entered - probably because I am coloured - but it was NOT the jokes which surprised me, but the fact that NONE of the members concerned were 'low brows', but all well educated, 'well off' types who had NEVER hinted at any kind of 'racism' in the couple of years I had known them.

This 'locker room' racism, may be 'milder' to some participants than others, but it is often endemic wherever males congregate in institutions, and if nothing else, in the twisted mind of an extreme racist, it empowers him, gives him a sense of fraternity - however false that perception may be.

In some Police Departments in the USA, as the more 'moral' officers leave and new recruits are either racist or are corrupted by the prevailing 'locker room' mentality into accepting racism - over generations - that racism can 'creep out' of the 'locker room' and overtly become the status quo.

It is NOT unusual, therefore, for any combination of of two or three extremely racist officers, or two extremely racist officers and one accepting officer, to be out on patrol together.

Thus, we have the recipe for a tragedy.

"Hey boy - that nogger's tail light is out. Let's teach this mother fecker a lesson".

We all know the untenable truth of what happens next, but here's the other prong of that bifurcated problem:

APATHY.

Or as some cases attest; COMPLICITY.

In any country - there must be both a deterrent AND a punishment element to any sentencing for a crime, in order to dissuade perpetrators from committing that crime, but it seems from all the evidence of many years, that when it comes to the murder of black citizens by racist cops, that the USA does NOT even recognize that crime - in diametric opposition to the rest of the world.

THE USA AUTHORITIES MUST NOW FACE UP TO THE VERY REAL, VERY OVERT FACT, THAT RACIST COPS ARE VENTING THEIR HATRED OF BLACK PEOPLE USING POLICE ISSUE GUNS AS A WEAPON, AND THEIR UNIFORMS AND BADGES AS SHIELDS.

A LEGAL police gun and badge has replaced an ILLEGAL low overhanging branch and a noose as the racist extremists most favoured method of murdering the blackman.

It is sad, shocking but true, and UNTIL the American authorities RECOGNISE that these racist murders are occurring and publicly ADMIT as much, and start to PUNISH the perpetrators with lenghty jail sentences, then the terrible events unfolding right now in Dallas will be replicated all over America.

For blacks to vent their years of bitter frustration by randomly killing innocent police officers, is WRONG - no matter how understandable may be their bitter frustration - but the fingers of EVERY police department chief who has turned a blind eye or actually been complicit in these 'Murders of Blacks by Cops', are on those snipers triggers too.

If you don't preach.


The cop badge was originally slave patrol badge.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Thank you, it's just so sad. And now people will use this latest incident to further look away from where the anger stems from. Many murderers today get their motives looked into which they conclude is mental disability. Will they care to look into where this anger stems from and actually do something? Doubt it. Of course I absolutely disagree with killing cops.

The solution is that they need to listen and actually acknowledge that here is a problem with racial profiling and how cops treats people differently. Heck if we go as far back as the OJ case even the cop on trial was caught on tape saying that he targeted black people and at times planted evidence against them. It's a thing. It's the same reason many racists don't like to be called racists, they don't like to acknowledge that part of them because it makes them a bad person. Cops and people like to believe that they're all good cops and that they truly are there to serve the people for your best interest. Acknowledging this completely destroys that serving your country slogan and they hate it. Doesn't mean they're all bad, but when they're bad they're bad and those cops protecting them are also bad.

yep, I agree with all that. The Cops should be trained differently and Racial profiling should be brought into their training as well(as in don't do it), it's like a vicious circle really, black people get targeted by Police so black people don't trust the Police and end up more hostile towards them because of that and then that "confirms" that thought that black people are bad and so it continues endlessly. A massive change in attitude and how the Police are taught to deal with people most especially black people is needed but that's never going to happen until the Police stop closing ranks and accept that change is needed