[Livia]

Not many claims of anti-Semitism in the Tories though... unlike Labour, which is RIFE with it. The Tories don't have the monopoly of ****ing idiots.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not many claims of anti-Semitism in the Tories though... unlike Labour, which is RIFE with it. The Tories don't have the monopoly of ****ing idiots.

The investigation and report from that says different,that is a serious accusation to level at a whole Party.
One would certainly hope you likely have concrete proof as to such careless and dangerous talk, if it is not just a likely prejudiced view against the Labour party and those who are in it.

Because I do not see that as the case at all and I am in the Labour party.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The investigation and report from that says different,that is a serious accusation to level at a whole Party.
One would certainly hope you likely have concrete proof as to such careless and dangerous talk, if it is not just a likely prejudiced view against the Labour party and those who are in it.

Because I do not see that as the case at all and I am in the Labour party.

Is there any higher than usual amounts of prejudice against the Jewish faith in the party?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is there any higher than usual amounts of prejudice against the Jewish faith in the party?

I find very little Mock. so I would say in answer to you no.

There are, as there are everywhere, those who sympathise with the Palestinians more than they do Israel, and some who support the Palestinians and not Israel at all, but people have to make their minds up as to whether that is real anti-semitism or not.
I don't think it is personally, and it is a heavy accusation to make against a whole party and the people in it.

What anti-semitism ever needed to be raised on an all woman party 'leadership' topic thread is also beyond me.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is there any higher than usual amounts of prejudice against the Jewish faith in the party?

Yes, there is. So much so that Corbyn himself has admitted that Jewish Labour donors haven't given any donations since he took over. Jews make up less than 0.5% of the population and yet gave one third of Labour's donations... but not any more. And the more denial there is in the party, the less backing they'll get from the Jewish community.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, there is. So much so that Corbyn himself has admitted that Jewish Labour donors haven't given any donations since he took over. Jews make up less than 0.5% of the population and yet gave one third of Labour's donations... but not any more. And the more denial there is in the party, the less backing they'll get from the Jewish community.

I say you are wrong,all you do is get at the Labour Party and in fact all people on the left of politics, branding them all sorts of things.

You may be right Jewish donors have pulled back from donating to Labour, that is their prerogative to do so.
It does not however make the dangerous and nasty accusations you make right against a whole Party or the people in it.

The vast majority would fight and stand against any anti-semitism.
Why you have even chosen to derail this thread with anti-semitism accusations, when it is about female leadership of parties is beyond all understanding to me.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I say you are wrong,all you do is get at the Labour Party and in fact all people on the left of politics, branding them all sorts of things.

You may be right Jewish donors have pulled back from donating to Labour, that is their prerogative to do so.
It does not however make the dangerous and nasty accusations you make right against a whole Party or the people in it.

The vast majority would fight and stand against any anti-semitism.
Why you have even chosen to derail this thread with anti-semitism accusations, when it is about female leadership of parties is beyond all understanding to me.

All I do? Seriously? This is a discussion thread. I'm allowed to say what I feel even if it doesn't fit in with your own opinion. And let's face it, the hatred against anything right of centre on this forum is rife.

I have not derailed the thread, I drew a comparison.

If Labour can't sort out it's anti-Semitism problem and just ignore it, that's their choice. Don't expect people, especially Jewish people, not to mention it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

All I do? Seriously? This is a discussion thread. I'm allowed to say what I feel even if it doesn't fit in with your own opinion. And let's face it, the hatred against anything right of centre on this forum is rife.

I have not derailed the thread, I drew a comparison.

If Labour can't sort out it's anti-Semitism problem and just ignore it, that's their choice. Don't expect people, especially Jewish people, not to mention it.

I have Jewish friends who have not the slightest bit of hatred you have against those on the left of politics.
It is a debating forum and this thread is about female leaders of Parties. no mention of anti-semitism,only why the Conservative party has had 2 female leaders and labour none.
What on earth has anti semitism got to do with this thread.

You are the only person who started the anti-semitism issue off, if you feel that strongly about it and need to spout venom against the left of politics as to it.
Perhaps a thread made on the subject would have been a more appropriate route to take, then us decent people who are in the Labour party and support it,from the left of politics, and also are not red Nazis or anything else you call us, can avoid going on such thread to read the insults thrown by you generally at decent people, insults they get from you likely only because they are on the left of politics..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not many claims of anti-Semitism in the Tories though... unlike Labour, which is RIFE with it. The Tories don't have the monopoly of ****ing idiots.

I'm not condoning that from Labour either.

Our War Veterans went after Hitler for a reason.