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Old 10-07-2016, 12:59 PM #11
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bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)



"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

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I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

It would be ridiculous if you re not part of a certain demographic or haven't experienced it yourself. But having said that it's not that ridiculous because this has been going on for long time, people are only talking about it more now thanks t the help of social media. When you have tapes like MARK FURHMAN where he admits to targeting black people and planting evidence against them, it's not a far fetched concept that this sort of thing goes on.
Those numbers are debatable, there's different numbers everywhere. But the thing is if continuous unlawful killings happened to whites you can bet your ass the families wouldn't stay quiet, there would be world wide support and generally when things happen to white people new laws or acts are written in. This is why white people favor cops rather than blacks, they mostly have to deal with the police if they deserve it.

''I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason' ''

White people have a voice on twitter too. If it happened to them unlawfully on a regular basis we would hear about, simple.

'' I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened. ''

Eric Garner had his hands up, Alton Sterlin was pinned down, Philando Castille was reaching for his ID, Rodney king was beaten repeatedly by 4 cops as he lay on the ground...
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