[hot2go]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

I did enjoy Andy tonight, but it is funny that this upbeat persona came just before nominations a week before the final

The end of a tense and turbulent week. The absense of Andys biggest enemies Lateysha and Ryan. The booze and the music. The need to separate from Jasons dark mood for a while. The upcoming noms.
Andy was genuinely enjoying himself last night but he was also playing it really smart too.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by hot2go

The end of a tense and turbulent week. The absense of Andys biggest enemies Lateysha and Ryan. The booze and the music. The need to separate from Jasons dark mood for a while. The upcoming noms.
Andy was genuinely enjoying himself last night but he was also playing it really smart too.

Yes his mate did that for him, now he seems to be forgetting that.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yes his mate did that for him, now he seems to be forgetting that.

No I disagree .... Andy was supporting Jason and keeping him company all throughout the day. I love Jason but he refused to take Andys advice and snap out of it. When Jason consoled Andy, Andy listened to him, picked himself up and got back in the saddle.
Sometimes misery likes its own company, maybe Jason wanted to be alone. Either way I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted Andy to miss the party because of him.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by hot2go

No I disagree .... Andy was supporting Jason and keeping him company all throughout the day. I love Jason but he refused to take Andys advice and snap out of it. When Jason consoled Andy, Andy listened to him, picked himself up and got back in the saddle.
Sometimes misery likes its own company, maybe Jason wanted to be alone. Either way I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted Andy to miss the party because of him.

I never said Andy should have missed the party or not enjoyed himself, he should have.
Your right, i think Jason wanted to be on his own.
When Jason consoled Andy it didnt take just one day to come round, it took a few days and if you remember the convo in the bedroom, Andy said that Jason kept saying to him to explain himself better because the other HM's dont get him. Andy didnt immediately take Jasons Advice.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I never said Andy should have missed the party or not enjoyed himself, he should have.
Your right, i think Jason wanted to be on his own.
When Jason consoled Andy it didnt take just one day to come round, it took a few days and if you remember the convo in the bedroom, Andy said that Jason kept saying to him to explain himself better because the other HM's dont get him. Andy didnt immediately take Jasons Advice.

Andy stabbed Jason in the back last night,the only person who defended him from the very people he was partying with ,and it was SO fake ,all the creeping around them all ,and the new jolly dancing Andy Leave it out ffs

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Andy stabbed Jason in the back last night,the only person who defended him from the very people he was partying with ,and it was SO fake ,all the creeping around them all ,and the new jolly dancing Andy Leave it out ffs

I wavered when he was talking to Alex about Jason, he didnt seem to say anything really bad but there was something not quite right about it

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Andy stabbed Jason in the back last night,the only person who defended him from the very people he was partying with ,and it was SO fake ,all the creeping around them all ,and the new jolly dancing Andy Leave it out ffs

I like both but i'm with Andy on this one. Theres only so much he can do or say to Jason to get him to relax/have more fun but it's almost like Jason blanks everything. It must be so draining saying the same things over and over again only to make no difference and to be surrounded by people wanting to bring the mood down.. in Jasons case i don't think it's intentional, i think he is genuinely in a **** mood. But he's evicted the two people he wanted, Charlies no longer there and his mood still hasn't improved.. he overthinks things too much so theres always something bringing him down.. i'd much rather see him enjoying himself like Andys now doing

[jet]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I like both but i'm with Andy on this one. Theres only so much he can do or say to Jason to get him to relax/have more fun but it's almost like Jason blanks everything. It must be so draining saying the same things over and over again only to make no difference and to be surrounded by people wanting to bring the mood down.. in Jasons case i don't think it's intentional, i think he is genuinely in a **** mood. But he's evicted the two people he wanted, Charlies no longer there and his mood still hasn't improved.. he overthinks things too much so theres always something bringing him down.. i'd much rather see him enjoying himself like Andys now doing

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I never said Andy should have missed the party or not enjoyed himself, he should have.
Your right, i think Jason wanted to be on his own.
When Jason consoled Andy it didnt take just one day to come round, it took a few days and if you remember the convo in the bedroom, Andy said that Jason kept saying to him to explain himself better because the other HM's dont get him. Andy didnt immediately take Jasons Advice.

Well yea I see what you're saying. it does take time to lift ones self out of feeling depressed....and there really is only so much you can do to help someone ...then eventually giving them some space is the best option for them and for you.
Jason was their for Andy in a dark moment but he didn't wet nurse him for hours and Andy didn't expect him to, as I'm sure neither did Jason expect Andy to either.
Jason was just having a down day, not the first one in there to do that but he def was the last. I'm surprised it took so long with all the stress and drama he's had to put up with.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Well yea I see what you're saying. it does take time to lift ones self out of feeling depressed....and there really is only so much you can do to help someone ...then eventually giving them some space is the best option for them and for you.
Jason was their for Andy in a dark moment but he didn't wet nurse him for hours and Andy didn't expect him to, as I'm sure neither did Jason expect Andy to either.
Jason was just having a down day, not the first one in there to do that but he def was the last. I'm surprised it took so long with all the stress and drama he's had to put up with.

Absolutely, i think they all go through up's and down's in there. Who wouldnt

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

No I disagree .... Andy was supporting Jason and keeping him company all throughout the day. I love Jason but he refused to take Andys advice and snap out of it. When Jason consoled Andy, Andy listened to him, picked himself up and got back in the saddle.
Sometimes misery likes its own company, maybe Jason wanted to be alone. Either way I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted Andy to miss the party because of him.

Exactly! It's really sad to see people who professed to like Andy turn against him at the first opportunity. He's been there for Jason all along and risked total rejection from the group when he stood by him when he evicted Laytesha. No matter how the group treated him, Andy never excluded HIMSELF from them - he kept interacting and just being himself. He never felt sorry for himself either.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by hot2go

The end of a tense and turbulent week. The absense of Andys biggest enemies Lateysha and Ryan. The booze and the music. The need to separate from Jasons dark mood for a while. The upcoming noms.
Andy was genuinely enjoying himself last night but he was also playing it really smart too.

sadly I think J was having a bad day he is more hard on himself than he is on anyone else