[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Either way, he doesn't sound that good a dad. Wonder he was accused on here of being a bad father....

I don't see how that setup makes him seem a bad dad? Thats a pretty normal setup tbh for parents who have split up...even if its gone through the courts and such it tends to be every weekend/every other weekend.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Either way, he doesn't sound that good a dad. Wonder he was accused on here of being a bad father....

Accused of being a bad father by who ? The same people who think Lateysha is a good mother ?

Oh it do make me larf Sometimes I think my jeans will never dry out

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't see how that setup makes him seem a bad dad? Thats a pretty normal setup tbh for parents who have split up...even if its gone through the courts and such it tends to be every weekend/every other weekend.

I was referring to how often "Bad mother" was leveled at Lateysha .

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Accused of being a bad father by who ? The same people who think Lateysha is a good mother ?

Oh it do make me larf Sometimes I think my jeans will never dry out

I'm so glad I amuse you.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Speedster

I was referring to how often "Bad mother" was leveled at Lateysha .

Oh right..I don't really see how we can judge them on parenting abilities from BB tbh. Having said that I admit I have struggled to understand HOW a single parent could leave a few month old baby at home to go on a gameshow. But I have never slagged her off for that, I just couldn't do it personally

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

The two situations are the same ....they are both young parents who want to make a better future for their children....personally I don't ever consider that a valid reason to give housemates immunity but then I'm not the one who went around saying it should be. If it was a valid reason for keeping Lateysha then it should be the same valid reason for keeping Jackson. Myself I would have pressed the same button as Jason did and thrown Jackson out the same door that silly cow went through. You think Jacksons child is less deserving than Lateysha child based on the principle that you don't like him. WELL Jason didn't like Lateysha and neither did loads of us on here so I really see no difference at all.
It seems to me that Jason wasn't allowed to dislike Lateysha but you are allowed to dislike Jackson.

I dont really care for either of them, you made the assumption that i like lateysha because you didnt like the answer i gave. Which is just a bit silly and forces your argument to a close.

One man ending one persons time in the house is not the same as the british publuc ending one persons time in the house. This is obvious (lol)

Theyre both parents and thats the only similarity. One was unjustly removed from the house and one will be fairly voted out. The housemates and the public will not care for Jacksons eviction because of the way it was fairly done.

[sungrass]

Jackson has to go. It would be just a great eviction. I want to see the Georgina thing - the group being shocked at the result - what accent he will use in his interview!

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dont really care for either of them, you made the assumption that i like lateysha because you didnt like the answer i gave. Which is just a bit silly and forces your argument to a close.

One man ending one persons time in the house is not the same as the british publuc ending one persons time in the house. This is obvious (lol)

Theyre both parents and thats the only similarity. One was unjustly removed from the house and one will be fairly voted out. The housemates and the public will not care for Jacksons eviction because of the way it was fairly done.

Some of the housemates thought Lateysha deserved to win and their reason was because she's got a small child. That reason was obv not true and they were being fake...those housemates were Ryan. Sam, Hughie and Jayne.

The difference in the way Lateysha and Jackson left / will leave the house isn't relevant to my point...some of those housemates were saying that she deserved to stay well before she lost her place in the house and their reason was because she has a child. So why not think the same about Jackson and his child.

My mistake in thinking you liked Lateysha makes my assumption about you wrong but it doesn't force my argument to a close at all.

Jason was given hell for the fact she has a child so why aren't the people who nominated Jackson given hell for same reason and esp Sam who had a chance to save him two nights ago and didn't.

Hypocrites and fake is what they are.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Some of the housemates thought Lateysha deserved to win and their reason was because she's got a small child. That reason was obv not true and they were being fake...those housemates were Ryan. Sam, Hughie and Jayne.

The difference in the way Lateysha and Jackson left / will leave the house isn't relevant to my point...some of those housemates were saying that she deserved to stay well before she lost her place in the house and their reason was because she has a child. So why not think the same about Jackson and his child.

My mistake in thinking you liked Lateysha makes my assumption about you wrong but it doesn't force my argument to a close at all.

Jason was given hell for the fact she has a child so why aren't the people who nominated Jackson given hell for same reason and esp Sam who had a chance to save him two nights ago and didn't.

Hypocrites and fake is what they are.

Yes the way Lateysha left is completely relevant, not only relevant, its the key factor.

Obviously if Lateysha was voted out by the public, people wouldnt have reacted in the way they did. Lateysha was unfairly eliminated as it was decided entirely by one person.

I dont know why you cant see the difference between one man and a couple thousand paying customers. I really cant.

Other people can, other people see the huge difference and it would not make them hypocrites for acting differently because they can see this huge difference, the huge difference will make them react differently. Because obviously.

I typed all this but im getting the impression you only made this thread to tell people that you're right and Jason is awesome and you didnt actually make it for a discussion at all. You should probably avoid putting questions in your titles if youre not open to answers

[chuff me dizzy]

I really don't care as long as he goes

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Single dad? Erm...doesn't the mother have the kid all of the time except a weekend every fortnight? I don't think that really qualifies him as a single dad tbh

I do get the point though

His situation is a tad different

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes the way Lateysha left is completely relevant, not only relevant, its the key factor.

Obviously if Lateysha was voted out by the public, people wouldnt have reacted in the way they did. Lateysha was unfairly eliminated as it was decided entirely by one person.

I dont know why you cant see the difference between one man and a couple thousand paying customers. I really cant.

Other people can, other people see the huge difference and it would not make them hypocrites for acting differently because they can see this huge difference, the huge difference will make them react differently. Because obviously.

I typed all this but im getting the impression you only made this thread to tell people that you're right and Jason is awesome and you didnt actually make it for a discussion at all. You should probably avoid putting questions in your titles if youre not open to answers

What was unfair? would you have said the same no matter who Jason had chosen or is this only applicable to her ?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What was unfair? would you have said the same no matter who Jason had chosen or is this only applicable to her ?

Applicable to anyone. Chelsea too but to a slightly lesser extent because that was a group decision.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Oh right..I don't really see how we can judge them on parenting abilities from BB tbh. Having said that I admit I have struggled to understand HOW a single parent could leave a few month old baby at home to go on a gameshow. But I have never slagged her off for that, I just couldn't do it personally

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[Maru]

Wonder which accent he will do his exit interview in...?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes the way Lateysha left is completely relevant, not only relevant, its the key factor.

Obviously if Lateysha was voted out by the public, people wouldnt have reacted in the way they did. Lateysha was unfairly eliminated as it was decided entirely by one person.

I dont know why you cant see the difference between one man and a couple thousand paying customers. I really cant.

Other people can, other people see the huge difference and it would not make them hypocrites for acting differently because they can see this huge difference, the huge difference will make them react differently. Because obviously.

I typed all this but im getting the impression you only made this thread to tell people that you're right and Jason is awesome and you didnt actually make it for a discussion at all. You should probably avoid putting questions in your titles if youre not open to answers

Actually this is not primarily about Jason at all, though he is loosely connected because of the vitreol he received over Lateysha....it isn't even about Lateysha or Jackson directly either....this is about Ryan, Sam, Hughie and Jayne, a community of the voters and the BOTS audience on the night Lateysha left ....the general consensus amongst those mentioned above was that Lateysha should have made the final because she was a single mom and preferably should win the show and that opinion existed way before the night she got evicted. The fact she wants what's best for her child is exactly why they all thought she deserved to win. But they don't apply those same principles to Jackson and his child.
The question was, will the single dad be shown the same favoured attitude that the single mom was shown ? ...and the answer is now a very clear no, he won't.
Which leads me to assume that the compassion for children shown by the likes of Sam and Tina Malone and many Lateysha supporters doesn't extend to all children but in fact only the child of Lateysha...it also leads me to think that had Jason pressed the button and evicted Jackson none of the others would have given a dam.
Maybe a good idea for those who felt so affronted and morally upset with Jasons decision should drop the Save the Children act because it's clear now that the reasons they gave for turning on him were in fact lies and nothing to do with wanting the best for the children at all.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Actually this is not primarily about Jason at all, though he is loosely connected because of the vitreol he received over Lateysha....it isn't even about Lateysha or Jackson directly either....this is about Ryan, Sam, Hughie and Jayne, a community of the voters and the BOTS audience on the night Lateysha left ....the general consensus amongst those mentioned above was that Lateysha should have made the final because she was a single mom and preferably should win the show and that opinion existed way before the night she got evicted. The fact she wants what's best for her child is exactly why they all thought she deserved to win. But they don't apply those same principles to Jackson and his child.
The question was, will the single dad be shown the same favoured attitude that the single mom was shown ? ...and the answer is now a very clear no, he won't.
Which leads me to assume that the compassion for children shown by the likes of Sam and Tina Malone and many Lateysha supporters doesn't extend to all children but in fact only the child of Lateysha...it also leads me to think that had Jason pressed the button and evicted Jackson none of the others would have given a dam.
Maybe a good idea for those who felt so affronted and morally upset with Jasons decision should drop the Save the Children act because it's clear now that the reasons they gave for turning on him were in fact lies and nothing to do with wanting the best for the children at all.

Well no youre wrong for all the above reasons, jayne, ryan, bots, general public, etc dont go around blindly supporting parents, weve been through this, they were upset that a parent was unfairly evicted. Feel free to spin in some more circles and good luck trying to convince somebody that this isnt about Jason.
You entire argument is based on the assumption that everyone is a hypocrite and youre using assumptions on other peoples behaviour to support your claims. Its odd, but ultimately stupid.

[Liam-]

Here for Alex blubbing into a dirty cocktail if Jackson is evicted.