[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are you seriously legitimising and justifying far-right political extremism? I don't even know how to respond to that... It's almost beyond comprehension, Livia.

I know you're not condoning these groups but when it comes to the horrific mindsets that spark their creation, you are passing the buck from the individuals involved onto "the current government" or worse still, onto the "foreign folks" to whom they have taken offense. Setting Mr Godwin aside here, and entirely seriously, this is exactly the sort of rhetoric that was passed around and allowed the Nazi party to rise. Utterly flabbergasted,and I can't imagine for a second that you would make the same excuses for them, or state that their rise was "the consequence of allowing Jews into Germany without asking the population what they wanted first".

Like I said I don't think this is Godwin territory. It is exactly what happened, and an exact parallel.

You saw that I said it terrified me, right? You DID see that? I really don't need you to explain Nazism to me.

I was waiting for the denials that multiculturalism is to blame for this, for allowing extremists to thrive, to do the dirty work of IS in the West. And I knew exactly from whom the denials would come.

Your trite and silly comment "I can't imagine for a second that you would make the same excuses for them, or state that their rise was "the consequence of allowing Jews into Germany without asking the population what they wanted first". " is quite meaningless here. The Jews weren't waging war against the west at the time, they weren't blowing up civilians, they weren't driving trucks over civilians or opening fire in shopping malls. And you suggesting there is ANY similarity between the Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust with the situation now is insulting and small-minded.

I hope to God no one you love is ever harmed by an Islamic terrorist so that you can continue to be this blinkered forever.