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Originally Posted by Livia

You saw that I said it terrified me, right? You DID see that? I really don't need you to explain Nazism to me.

I was waiting for the denials that multiculturalism is to blame for this, for allowing extremists to thrive, to do the dirty work of IS in the West. And I knew exactly from whom the denials would come.

Your trite and silly comment "I can't imagine for a second that you would make the same excuses for them, or state that their rise was "the consequence of allowing Jews into Germany without asking the population what they wanted first". " is quite meaningless here. The Jews weren't waging war against the west at the time, they weren't blowing up civilians, they weren't driving trucks over civilians or opening fire in shopping malls. And you suggesting there is ANY similarity between the Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust with the situation now is insulting and small-minded.

I hope to God no one you love is ever harmed by an Islamic terrorist so that you can continue to be this blinkered forever.

I did see that which is why I said that I know you're not condoning it - but you are justifying it. You're straight up saying that there are valid explanations for far-right fascist groups to form and that those groups and their actions are the fault of "the other" and not those individuals themselves.

And no, the marginalised Jewish people pre-ww2 hadn't turned to extremism before it hit boiling point. What had happened, though, was that they had been demonised and made monsters by propaganda, made "different", made "other" and dehumanised to justify their removal in the minds of perfectly normal, average German people. In reality the Jewish people were not destroying anything or harming anyone, but the atrocities that followed were allowed to happen by a population who had been convinced that they were. This is what happens when multiculturalism is NOT embraced.

Or home grown terrorists. They are born of rejection and disenfranchisement, a failure of integration, because people who "don't believe in multiculturalism" will never be willing to accept that integration. It's conversion, or leave. The "multiculturalism has failed" thinly-veiled "get foreign Johnny out of my country" rhetoric, further division, further rejection, will only INCREASE the problem exponentially. Full stop.