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Originally Posted by Maru

Without launching into a large explanation, my response was not meant for the purpose of saying "get in line", but except maybe remember that all who walked before you and beside you are working towards a common goal and that one should borrow their brothers and sister's experiences. I'm of a very strong opinion that people should work together, particularly those within the same communities, for a common goal and purpose because no one will have your back like those who have walked in your shoes before.

Her responses are very divisive and for me, quite disconcerting because this is a time that we should all be relying one each other. I was just pointing this out in my own little way because it is my take, but at the same time dipping my toe in to see if we both could have a conversation that can go beyond certain rhetoric. Are they open to constructive thoughts or is it all just reactionary? If she took my response as too personal and too blunt, then that is half the problem... this is a controversial topic, it's going to be personal. Am I supposed to ignore my own observations of discussion and feelings being expressed here and not voice my opinion? It just seems like so few are listening to each other, more would rather do all the talking...

That said, my own words, "your own people". A person's culture is more than just skin color, it's shared experiences and common ancestors and obstacles that need to be overcome or that they are working to overcome. I can't possibly have a conversation from those shoes, because I am not in the. If I started to act as if I completely understand, that wouldn't be right. However, to reach a common goal, there eventually will need to trying other people's shoes on to see each other's points... however I take offense to someone who can be so disrespectful to others fighting the same fight and yet have no respect for their experience in it.

I would argue to some degree that it is self-hate. The disconnect is clear which is why I wrote my response and was so blunt about it. Sorry if it doesn't sound 'sensitive', but I'm the type that does not beat around the bush. She and I are very similar in that manner.

Anyway, her other post was deleted as well and so the only thing left was the lone extreme response and that was the one I had the emotional reaction to.



You're absolutely right. The last thing we need is more hate which is why I wrote my post. I think the other part that got taken out of context was when I mentioned people turning a blind eye. There are a few posters here who have made that clear and after a while you have to ask yourself if you'd just be fueling a pattern. She was very much allowed to write her own response, why would I tell someone what they can and cannot post? My post may have been very blunt and to the point in terms of trying to figure out if a conversation could happen, but I feel like the lines will get crossed anyway because these topics are so controversial and highly personalized.



How am I stopping anyone from expressing an opinion? I was expressing my own? That doesn't mean someone can't reply? Wow, you really can't say anything these days Respectfully, I think my post was taken a little bit out of context because honestly I don't think that much about what I posted? I wrote my concern about getting involved because of the observation. Sometimes people just write and write, they're not really there to be discussed with and that was my concern there.

If you look at my reply, it's fairly neutral. Some of her response was offensive, but she had her go at me and that was it. I sent her a friend request to reach out but I'm not going to go out of my way to be verbally abused when I legitimately do care about someone's POV's and wanted to strike a conversation. Her posts at times do not come off as welcoming discussion. I was afraid to take a chance? Many of her posts are outright name calling. I would love to discuss, but I'm only human and even I have a limit to what I can tolerate. I imagine some feel the same, which is why I wrote my post, to see if we could break the cycle?

Anyway, these are controversial discussions and I really feel to get anywhere, there needs to be trust and common respect. There seems to be little in this case, so I had already let it go. She had her rant at me and I wish her the best. I have no issues putting anyone on ignore so I already have her on there out of respect tbf. I did not want to be "tempted" by an intense discussion and find out it turns into verbal abuse and she didn't seem too keen on me with her reply but you can never be too sure. There is a lot of that going on in this particular section and I'd just like to avoid getting into some of the more ill language posts on here. I feel ill when I end up in passive aggressive conversations as they don't do me any world of good and they're predictable to be in anyway.

I do appreciate your words and I don't mind your "calling me out".

Edit: Opps, it turned into a large explanation. Sorry about that

Was hoping to keep ignoring this thread all together.

''but except maybe remember that all who walked before you and beside you are working towards a common goal and that one should borrow their brothers and sister's experiences.''
This is not a fact but just an opinion. Just because we share the same hue you assume their goal must be common to mine.

''Her responses are very divisive and for me, quite disconcerting because this is a time that we should all be relying one each other.''
As divisive as anybody else's comment who doesn't share a similar opinion. You call my comments divisive but from the start some of her comments were divisive, such as stereotyping black men and assume from a police stand point that the black men stereotype must by why fear instilled in the police officer. That offended me, which since you care so much about divide is also a culprit in divide. Why stereotype a group to justify another's wrong actions? Police have to deal with terrorists, criminals from all sorts of life and some of them end up in custody alive.


''You sound pretty young. You're all over the board posting the same stuff on a bunch of topics. I've read what you've had to say and I wish I could say something constructive and try to add positively, but what I'm more worried about that you will get lost in another of your rants and that I will have wasted my time...

Some of the people here are not even willing to give you the time of the day. It may come off as intolerant in retrospect and make you feel angry, but consider too that you may be part of the problem and getting in the way of your own arguments. ''

''If she took my response as too personal and too blunt, then that is half the problem... this is a controversial topic,*it's going to be personal ''

Your whole original post was personal. Your first paragraph alone was about assuming I post just for reaction and unbravely just react on a message board, which is what you yourself are doing. Then you talked about my age as if this has any relevance and it goes on. I have no idea why whether people give me the time of the day or not came into the post? Is it something you were discussing with someone? Either way, that comment was itself to create a reaction wasn't it? If you had a problem with my side of things, just comment on that. Why take it into my age, where and how I should post and who does or doesn't give me the time of day for how I post?!



''How am I stopping anyone from expressing an opinion?''
''*Are they open to constructive thoughts or is it all just reactionary? ''

Either way my posts are it's not up to you to dictate how someone should or shouldn't post If you want to monitor that, create your own board but if you yourself touched on thoughts not being too important when posted on a message board why does it concern you that much if some of my posts are reactionary? If reactionary posts are a waste of your time from forum members, keep scrolling or perhaps you yourself should go out there and put your essays somewhere where it actually matters.

''however I take offense to someone who can be so disrespectful to others fighting the same fight and yet have no respect for their experience in it. ''

What was disrespectful about my post? My original quote that you quoted was in response to the lady saying that this is the United states-well I was pointing out things that showed that the United states isn't and hasn't really been ''UNITED'' as she claims and those were examples. In fact her quote is redundant because that is the very thing that the group she's scolding have been fighting against. ''In ALL LIVES includes black lives, we are all one race, treat us the same''. If you listen to some of Malcom X or MLK's speeches, not just the glossed over commercialiased ones, what they say sounds like it was written about an event today which shows the problem has always been there. If she wants to make a point that we should all keep fighting peacefully (not that it helps) then she can do so without being oppressive. This is where my ''reactionary'' reaction came in.



'' Some of her response was offensive, but she had her go at me and that was it.''

Tbf you had a 'go. Please don't play the victim as my replies above shows why I felt the need to have a ''go'' aswell.

''I'm not going to go out of my way to be verbally abused ''

If you felt so verbally abused why send me a friend request then?

''which is why I wrote my post, to see if we could break the cycle?''

Yes ''your own people'' ''at least they have the cajones'' 'this is much braver'' are great cycle breakers.

You took offence to my post, I personally take offence to people using the word abuse so loosely.