[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can go with that all through until the end.

It doesn't need to be panic or claustrophobia for certain fears or insecurities to set in.

You rightly say Heavy D had calmed down,you miss out that Bear in the diary room had also calmed right down and was apologising too.

Where he erupted again was when he was told,indeed ordered, to remain in the diary room while they set up a separate room for him.
When he asked how long that would take, they could not say and would not give a time frame.

It can never be right when someone has calmed down to force them to be in a small locked room with no information as to how long it was going to take.
They accepted that heavy D had calmed down, but had he,maybe they were keeping Bear there for his safety rather than others, as heavy D had been the one who moved aggressively to him.

It is how BB dealt with this, I said earlier, the housemates were in effect in the bedroom anyway,they could have let Bear go into the garden, finish a cigarette, asking the housemates in the bedroom together until they had sorted tie room for Bear.

Someone and I would react badly to this too,being told after they had calmed down,that they were now going to have to sit there 'alone' for an 'unspecified' amount of time in a 'locked small room' is outrageous in my view.
It is the BB house not a prison.

....but it doesn't have to be any type of insecurities/fears etc for a temper tantrum to set in either, Joey and to be at the point of 'lack of control'...my perspective is different from yours because I have seen 'Bear behaviour' in so many children and he really was displaying the behaviour of a child imo...so easy to make that comparison...and I would allow that child or those children back into a social group and with their peers only when I felt that they were calm because it would be my responsibility to do so and to decide that, not for the 'anger' to decide that..I have had many injuries and a few quite serious ones which have been done by 'I'm calm now' children...that's fine and my choice but it's my responsibility to feel confident that neither the child themselves is in any way in danger of physical harm or any of their peers are...

..yes, he could have been allowed out to have a cigarette and the other housemates locked in the bedroom or something for a few moments but ..but again, would we remove a whole classroom of children from that threat or that one person causing and responsible for it, that just seems like a no brainer to me but that's also my perspectives...I would think that they couldn't give a specific amount of time because he was still 'demanding' and erratic with his 'calm' so that time scale was being determined by himself and his own behaviour and when they felt it would be ok to allow him into his room and bed...(and that might not have actually been that long at all, we just don't know or whole conversations because we only get bite-size and condensed..)...but they fulfilled their responsibility of being the ones who felt confident themselves in there decision of when the 'calm came' enough for him to leave....